Welcome to NEFF

Sign up for a new account today, or log on with your old account!

Give us a try!

Welcome back to the new NEFF. Take a break from Twitter and Facebook. You don't go to Dicks for your fly fishing gear, you go to your local fly fishing store. Enjoy!

Is this the "change" you guys voted for??

Yup. Now if they can cut down on the violence to the same degree that they promote sex, we should be good.
:smiley-sniffer:
 
I personally, don't really give a shit about the children. I hope that they can get out there and experiment with all sorts of freaky and bizarre sexual things. Might do a bit to cull the herd. Obviously, this abstinence thing isn't working, what with the massive resurgence of the clap among Catholic School kids. I think that the government is doing the right thing by promoting this.
I mean, when I was in school and the government came through"teaching" something or the other, I always rebelled and did the opposite....
 
I'm actually more concerned about whats happening in Copenhagen. We're going to be paying for the "developing" world to get green? We're going to end up paying for one-third of this thing. That is the redistribution of wealth, under the guise of this bullshit man-made climate change scare.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I'm actually more concerned about whats happening in Copenhagen. We're going to be paying for the "developing" world to get green? We're going to end up paying for one-third of this thing. That is the redistribution of wealth, under the guise of this bullshit man-made climate change scare.


Yeah. It's all disturbing, and these people that wanted their "change" are about to get it. I tried to warn people in my global warming is a hoax post, but some of the people here just think I am a nut job. Funny how when actual facts and information is provided to them they still think you're an idiot.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This hoax is about to cost us a shitload of money for the next 20 years. What an arrogant asshole. And of course, all the money I'm sure will make it into the right hands within the "developing world".
 
I personally, don't really give a shit about the children. I hope that they can get out there and experiment with all sorts of freaky and bizarre sexual things. Might do a bit to cull the herd. Obviously, this abstinence thing isn't working, what with the massive resurgence of the clap among Catholic School kids. I think that the government is doing the right thing by promoting this.
I mean, when I was in school and the government came through"teaching" something or the other, I always rebelled and did the opposite....

I dont think you really meant you dont give a shit about the kids right. As for teaching abstinence. If the catholic school wants to teach that isnt it their business. If you decided to rebel against that well wasnt that your choice (im sure you turned out ok). Some of the Fistgate received federal dollars. Seems a bit strange to have a guys as the safe school Czar with yet another equally bizarre mark on his record.

I mean look at it this way. With the 1.1 trillion spending bill that was just passed this weekend. You effectively ended a program in Washington D.C. that gave school vouchers to kids so they could go to better schools while re-establishing a program that gives clean needles to dope addicts. Arent we basically saying "hey kids we dont care enough to send you to a better school" we would rather spend the money on dope addicts so they dont get an STD in addition to getting high. BTW the superintendent of the school system said it was one of the most effective programs in a district that has massive issues with their school system.
 
Fair enough MacFly. I do give a shit about some children, but most of em can feck off. They are a bunch of snotty, impolite lil' cusses. I am sure that my parents generation said the same thing about me.
And as far as that bill goes, I didn't end anything. The voucher program in DC has been in jeopardy for a few years. McCain and his cronies will be on the committee next year, and can bring their options to the table.
It was 6 out of 12 annual appropriation bills rolled into one (efficiency!) that includes $447 billion for departments' operating budgets and about $650 billion in mandatory payments for federal benefit programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Those programs under immediate control of Congress would see increases of about 10 percent. The FBI gets $7.9 billion, a $680 million increase over 2009; the Veterans Health Administration budget goes from $41 billion to $45.1 billion; and the National Institutes of Health receives $31 billion, a $692 million increase. The other roughly $450 billion is for everything from NASA and Amtrak, to public schools and highways.
A few notable details:
—The bill strengthens federal oversight of the financial markets, and boosts funds for high-speed rail programs.
—It prohibits authorities from bringing Guantanamo Bay prisoners into the U.S., unless they're here to be prosecuted.
—Under the new law, Amtrak must allow passengers to carry guns and ammunition in their checked baggage.
—NASA will receive $3.8 billion for the human spaceflight program.


And who can argue with our need for dominance in space. :p
 
Last edited:
Fair enough MacFly. I do give a shit about some children, but most of em can feck off. They are a bunch of snotty, impolite lil' cusses. I am sure that my parents generation said the same thing about me.
And as far as that bill goes, I didn't end anything. The voucher program in DC has been in jeopardy for a few years. McCain and his cronies will be on the committee next year, and can bring their options to the table.
It was 6 out of 12 annual appropriation bills rolled into one (efficiency!) that includes $447 billion for departments' operating budgets and about $650 billion in mandatory payments for federal benefit programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Those programs under immediate control of Congress would see increases of about 10 percent. The FBI gets $7.9 billion, a $680 million increase over 2009; the Veterans Health Administration budget goes from $41 billion to $45.1 billion; and the National Institutes of Health receives $31 billion, a $692 million increase. The other roughly $450 billion is for everything from NASA and Amtrak, to public schools and highways.
A few notable details:
—The bill strengthens federal oversight of the financial markets, and boosts funds for high-speed rail programs.
—It prohibits authorities from bringing Guantanamo Bay prisoners into the U.S., unless they're here to be prosecuted.
—Under the new law, Amtrak must allow passengers to carry guns and ammunition in their checked baggage.
—NASA will receive $3.8 billion for the human spaceflight program.


And who can argue with our need for dominance in space. :p

Hey I wouldnt have a problem freezing all spending at current levels for this coming budget year including no federal increases in salaries. The large majority of people in this country got no pay raises this year and in many cases took salary cuts or furloughs. How is it we can increase spending 10% and raise the debt ceiling again in this current economy. My previous post was referring to the success of the school voucher program. It was deemed a success despite attempts to kill it off. The end of that program stands in stark contrast to the idea that we should be giving dope addicts free needles.

It was 1997 when Congress first tried to appropriate money outside the normal budget for the D.C. Opportunity Scholarships Fund, which provided vouchers that would get 1,800 kids out of Washington’s dysfunctional public schools and into private alternatives. The bill survived a filibuster by Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), who derided it as a “foolish ideological experiment.” Kennedy won that round: President Clinton vetoed the bill. But it was reintroduced under President Bush and became law in 2003 as a five-year pilot program.

By that time, the way had been paved by a variety of private scholarships, charter schools, and other forms of school choice. Mike Lynch, then reason’s Washington editor, wrote about them in “Rampaging Toward Choice” (January 2000), in which he found school choice supporters throughout Washington’s black community. “These mothers and grandmothers are the very people in whose name liberal Democrats and public school officials have long been designing government programs,” Lynch wrote. “Now the help these families want most is help leaving government schools.”

After some modest progress in school performance and governance, particularly after the appointment of celebrated Superintendent Michelle Rhee, the D.C. school system received shocking news: The newly empowered Democratic Party, as part of its “omnibus” federal spending package, voted in March to end the voucher program after the 2009-10 school year. Kennedy’s office issued a statement celebrating the death of the scholarship fund, falsely claiming that it “takes funds from very needy public schools to send students to unaccountable private schools.” Two weeks later, after it was too late, a federal study showed voucher recipients clearly outperforming the public school kids they left behind.

There’s a small glimmer of hope for kids already in the program. President Barack Obama’s daughters attend Sidwell Friends, one of Washington’s best private schools, and a few of their classmates are beneficiaries of the D.C. voucher program. The day after Obama laid out his own education plan, his press secretary said the president believes “it wouldn’t make sense to disrupt the education of those that are in that system.” But he also said “the president doesn’t believe that vouchers are a long-term answer to our educational problems.” So a few kids might make it safely to high school graduation in the private schools. But nine years after Lynch’s article, reform remains elusive for those stuck in the D.C. public schools.

Why is it that we think the answer to solving issues like education is simply throw more money at it? Does the money ever get spent actually helping a child or does it get swallowed up by the bureaucracy.

As for the kids, im sure there are a number of snotty kids but they are kids and number 2...Im glad your not my dad:)
 
Yeah. It's all disturbing, and these people that wanted their "change" are about to get it. I tried to warn people in my global warming is a hoax post, but some of the people here just think I am a nut job. Funny how when actual facts and information is provided to them they still think you're an idiot.

These are ignorant people who do not see the full picture, they are watching reality shows on tv and going about their feeble little life. I knew this obama was going to be a problem, the lying was already infront of us but some didnt see it. Global warming is a hoax/health care is a tax bill this is the change to implode the country and then control us. F**k this man we have to act along with everyone who feels the same way or wer jus pissin in the wind!!!. All of our rights are being slowly nudged out. I sure hope we dont let our FLAG down. iF YOU ARE READING THIS AND DON BELEIVE WHAT I AM TELLING YOU LOOK UP CLOWARD AND PLIVEN!

IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH.
infowars.com
glenbeck.com
 
I am not sure why people continue to think that the answer is to throw more money at it. I am a product of public schools, and I know for a fact that the education system has definitely gotten worse since I got out of school. One of the main problems with the voucher system, as far as I can see it, is that it does not do enough to help all students, but only helps a small number of them. Now, I don't think that is a reason to disassemble the program, but there has to be a better way of helping more kids get a decent education. My sister is home schooling her kids, and they are far and away much better off than their public school counterparts. But, the state of Oregons' teachers union saw fit to buy off enough members of the house of Representatives to keep charter and virtual schools off limits. Unions and bureaucracy. Major hurdles to effectiveness.(sometimes)

Sorry. Ranting.
I for one, am glad that I am no ones dad!
:)

And Spawnfly,
Glenn Beck is a complete idiot. Even the Republicans think so.
 
I am not sure why people continue to think that the answer is to throw more money at it. I am a product of public schools, and I know for a fact that the education system has definitely gotten worse since I got out of school. One of the main problems with the voucher system, as far as I can see it, is that it does not do enough to help all students, but only helps a small number of them. Now, I don't think that is a reason to disassemble the program, but there has to be a better way of helping more kids get a decent education. My sister is home schooling her kids, and they are far and away much better off than their public school counterparts. But, the state of Oregons' teachers union saw fit to buy off enough members of the house of Representatives to keep charter and virtual schools off limits. Unions and bureaucracy. Major hurdles to effectiveness.(sometimes)

Sorry. Ranting.
I for one, am glad that I am no ones dad!
:)

And Spawnfly,
Glenn Beck is a complete idiot. Even the Republicans think so.

Yep my sister in Utah was homeschooling her kids as well or was until this past year. I didnt think the DC school voucher program was the sole answer I just remarked that its sad to see something successful taken down like this. I dont believe we can solve this by giving the education department more money.

PS WTH is a spawnfly:)

PPS: are you sure you are no ones dad:)
 
I would say the government should do the right thing and pay a parent to stay home and home educate their children.

Then it hit me.. we would end up with people like Twistem.. so child like ... and at the other end SCAT BOY... who most likely his parents locked him up in the basement for years. How else can you explain his sick fetish.

One of his recent posts he goes on about castles, dungens and dragons or something like that. I can just imagine what his place looks like.. headless GI Joes all over the place... SCAT pile here.. SCAT pile there... and the smell... Phewwwww.....
 
Yep my sister in Utah was homeschooling her kids as well or was until this past year. I didnt think the DC school voucher program was the sole answer I just remarked that its sad to see something successful taken down like this. I dont believe we can solve this by giving the education department more money.

PS WTH is a spawnfly:)

PPS: are you sure you are no ones dad:)

yessir, damn sure, sir!
I was always a careful one....aside from that one time...

I don't know what the answer for education is. Public School teachers are in dismal situations, where it is almost impossible for them to do their jobs, if they even want to. Bureaucracy makes it difficult to educate your own children. And even if you do manage to do that, assimilating them into a public school....I can't even imagine what that would be like...Vouchers don't work for enough students, and charter schools are to expensive for others...Maybe we go back to Lord of the Flies....
 
yessir, damn sure, sir!
I was always a careful one....aside from that one time...

I don't know what the answer for education is. Public School teachers are in dismal situations, where it is almost impossible for them to do their jobs, if they even want to. Bureaucracy makes it difficult to educate your own children. And even if you do manage to do that, assimilating them into a public school....I can't even imagine what that would be like...Vouchers don't work for enough students, and charter schools are to expensive for others...Maybe we go back to Lord of the Flies....

It surely is a tough situation. My dad taught public school in Newark, NJ for 26 years. It was not a job for the faint of heart. There are some great teachers out there and some fairly poor teachers as well. I suspect the majority do an average job.Thats been my personal experience. However I sincerely do not believe you can solve this issue with more money. Maybe have a lottery and whoever wins the dodgeball game gets to go to their school of choice...oh wait I hear you cant play dodgeball anymore because kids dont like to get hit with the ball:)
 
Last edited:
It surely is a tough situation. My dad taught public school in Newark, NJ for 26 years. It was not a job for the faint of heart. There are some great teachers out there and some fairly poor teachers as well. I suspect the majority do an average job.Thats been my personal experience. However I sincerely do not believe you can solve this issue with more money. Maybe have a lottery and whoever wins the dodgeball game gets to go to their school of choice...oh wait I hear you cant play dodgeball anymore because kids dont like to get hit with the ball:)

Or maybe we can start a state lottery, and have a percentage of the income go to funding our schools! Oh wait...... Or maybe casinos! Yeah, we can take income from the casinos and fund our schools! Oh, wait.....
 
Back
Top