Thanks a lot jcstikfish, yeah I think this was my problum. I have been catching them on size 14 hairs ears and im hearing people say there taking even smaller flys. I know the fish have really been taking them sometimes but I dont know for sure if they were taking them every time. I really did...

Alright thanks, im gonna tie up a few of those wiggle stones tonight. anyone else have any luck using them??

Hmm, I guess that pattern is out of the picture. I never got to try it anyways haha. I was fishing the salmon creek in Pultneyville today, the fishing was slow I did caught a few on egg patterns, I tryed a olive wollybugger, but with no luck. I cant seem to get them on streamers. O well, sooo...

I was talking to a fly fisherman about stoneflys well steelhead fishing at one of my local great lake tribs the other day. He brought up the pattern he uses and said the steelhead eat it like candy. His pattern was a size 14 nymph hook, black dubbing, blue ribbing and wing case and black goose...

Wow thanks, I really like those redington waders. Now whats your guys's opinion on wading shoes? Could I just use an old pair of sneakers for now intill I get a pair?

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Thanks for the help, and im looking to spend around $200 to $250. What do you guys think about ll bean waders? I like them because they have a life time warranty

I know this is an older thread but I agree 100% on what tomfly is saying a lot of people like to land the fish, but I like just knowing I have outsmarted such a beautiful intelligent fish

The steel are following the salmon in to chomp on eggs. If there are salmon and steel, there will be goons this time of year, so wear a helmet, and without a doubt, eye protection. O yeah I know what you mean, it sickens me watching how people treat the fish always snaging them and talking...

Lookin to get my first pair of decent waders, I have always bought cheep waders that dont last. I dont want to spend a ton of money or get crap waders. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, and good luck on the water

Going up to the Salmon Creek in Pultneyville this Sunday, from what I hear its full of steelhead. Cant wait, ill tell you how I make out. O yeah, has anyone been up there recently? and does anyone know why always they come in there so early?

You'll get a tug, it's like a drug, and when it happens, come on back and we'll start prepping you for your first spey rod. Just accept in now, it's gonna happen........ Hahaha, we will see about that:) and thanks a lot man, just one more question. Is swinging for steelhead just as effective as...

Thanks, this helps alot. Im fishing singlehanded rods.

Awww, its that time of year again...waiting for the first steelhead to enter the New York tribs, watching all the same youtube videos and reading all the same articles I did last year. Tying egg patterns and nymphs like crazy because I put it off to the last minute...like always haha. but this...

So you would say, if the water temp is over 65 70 its not worth fishing? Also my fly selection so far hairs ears and pheasant tails size 14 and 16, elk hair caddis size 14 and 16, blue winged olives size 16, and some olive woolly buggers what do you guys think? should I bring scuds? thanks