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    Alert: De-Watering Planned for Delaware Watershed

    Yet another interesting article... make sure you read the asterisked part... Oh, and write the DRBC: Paula.Schmitt@drbc.state.nj.us Deadline is March 12th. From the 2/11/2010 issue of The River Reporter. UDC sees NPS changeups Greets new super; thanks retiring assistant super By SANDY...
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    Alert: De-Watering Planned for Delaware Watershed

    Ignore the trout stream haters; write the DRBC: Paula.Schmitt@drbc.state.nj.us Deadline is March 12th. Here’s another interesting article about gas drilling in state forestlands in PA. Sounds great. The Marcellus Memos: Privately, Rendell’s State Forest tsars expressed deep concern over...
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    Alert: De-Watering Planned for Delaware Watershed

    Rather than debate with the Monty Python argument clinic, write the DRBC. It’s easy and FUN! Some folks don’t want you to think that trout anglers should fight for their streams. They like to muddy the waters (pun intended) and try to make you think that you can’t make a difference, that this...
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    Alert: De-Watering Planned for Delaware Watershed

    Here we go again… There is another permit before the Delaware River Basin Commission (DRBC) to de-water a trout stream in the Delaware Watershed for natural gas drilling. As you may recall, this is the second attempt by the gas industry to get into the watershed. The first permit, which was an...
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    EPA's Natural Gas Development Tipline

    Ummm... Benzene is also used in fracking fluids, according to this article in the NY Times. See below. BTW: is benzene good for trout? Is it good for trout streams? Is it good for hatches? Is it good for watersheds? For that matter, is gas drilling good for trout? Is it good for trout...
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    EPA's Natural Gas Development Tipline

    Glad the EPA is on top of this. All citizens should now run out and buy benzene detectors, which it looks like we will all need once drilling starts -- See breaking news story below from Fort Worth Star Telegram, where hydrofracking is already happening big time (Barnett shale is another deep...
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    Gas Drilling Debate is Done

    You're right -- my mistake. NYCDEP wants to scrap EIS...
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    Gas Drilling Debate is Done

    Let's review: NYDEC: Wants to scrap the EIS US EPA: Has serious problems w/EIS NY DEC Union: Asks for 1 year moratorium and has serious issues w/EIS Kilgour and FF: Full steam ahead!! You guys seriously crack me up!!
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    Gas Drilling Debate is Done

    The EIS comment period is over, so I’m done debating about gas drilling – at least here. I thank everyone who took the time to write to the Gov, DEC and DRBC. I believe we all made a huge difference. I hope this means good karma, fine hatches, and giant rising trout next spring for all of...
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    I hate to break it to you, but the "article" you and Kilgour are both fawning over is a verbatim press release from Chesapeake (Business Wire is a press release distribution service). Are you guys now resorting to posting spin from the public relations office of the gas companies and trying to...
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    I think the facts you presented here speak for themselves. Thank you
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    I agree -- context is everything. You posted this -- plus your interpretation of the law: ("The word forever wild pertains to surface rights. I see no where in Article XIV that mineral extractions are prohibited.") on an extremely pro-gas drilling website...
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    Mr. Kilgour, This what you wrote on the PA Gas lease forum when someone asked about gas drilling within the “blue line” (the Catskill Park designation) Here’s your direct quote: “The word forever wild pertains to surface rights. I see no where in Article XIV that mineral extractions are...
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    I’m sorry you feel that way. Not sure what you think is disingenuous, though. New York’s City’s position seems pretty straight forward… Mr. Kilgour has stated in previous posts that he thinks it would be OK to drill in areas designated by NYS as Forever Wild. Do you think that is “properly...
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    New York City’s decision is very telling. They are the largest single landowner in the watershed and would have a lot to potentially gain or lose from gas drilling. Just a few weeks ago there was a lot of chatter that Bloomberg is a businessman, and will see gas drilling as an economic...
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    A Christmas Gift for our Trout Streams

    As much as I’d like to hoist a glass of eggnog right now, I urge you to please place a Christmas gift under the hemlock tree of your favorite trout steam by writing Governor Patterson one last time and urge him to withdraw the draft environmental impact statement on gas drilling in the...
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    NEWS FLASH Don't Count Those Gas Royalties Yet...

    Major news development here... Looks like an early Christmas gift to the catskills, but more work to be done... UPDATE 1-NYC urges ban on shale gas drilling in watershed 8:30am EST * Largest U.S. city joins environmentalists in opposition * Drilling called 'unacceptable threat' to drinking...
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    Question for the gas farmers

    Oh yeah, that's why they installed those high-tech stream monitors in PA. What's the acceptable level of accidents, BTW? One fishkill? Two? Twenty? Just wondering.
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    Question for the gas farmers

    It’s always fascinating to gain some insight from a proud proponent of gas drilling... Couple of questions. 1.) If you don’t “own” the wind, as you said, does that mean you won’t “own” any of the air pollution problems that will arise from gas drilling? How will your “down-wind” neighbors...
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