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    West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Hi guys,

    Looks like his bit of rain coming tonight and tomorrow will put the West Branch over the top!

    East Branch still a couple of weeks away from spilling.

    Might start to spill on Tuesday, but more likely Wednesday.

    No hendricksons yet, but there have been a few blue quills around. Occasional rises, but sporadic.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Good news on all fronts, including the lack of Hendricksons so far up your way which only began here in NJ on Thursday in earnest, and we're always a good 10 - 14 days in front of you guys on the WBD. Last week in April is what it looks like to me. Right in time for my annual onslaught of the WBA Resort when we arrive on the 30th.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Spinner View Post
    Hi guys,

    Looks like his bit of rain coming tonight and tomorrow will put the West Branch over the top!

    East Branch still a couple of weeks away from spilling.

    Might start to spill on Tuesday, but more likely Wednesday.

    No hendricksons yet, but there have been a few blue quills around. Occasional rises, but sporadic.

    Jim
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    I hope ol' Jim is right.

    Down in Callicoon this afternoon the water temp hit 55 with good clarity.

    Six rigs at Tower due to the fact that it was a Sunday and they couldn't float the West Branch or they didn't want to deal with the Buck stretch.

    South breeze.

    The only hatch was black stones and there only a handful at that.

    My call about Hendos near Cally in early May doesn't look too shabby right now especially since this week in the Catskills nighttime readings will be in the 30s.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

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    My call about Hendos near Cally in early May doesn't look too shabby right now especially since this week in the Catskills nighttime readings will be in the 30s.

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    Good morning.

    Heavier rain went to the south - Philly to NYC.

    Catskills? Light showers. That's it.

    See map and watch the USGS and NYC DEP charts this week.

    You'll see water back in the low to mid 40s later this week.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Let's face it, brain surgery is far easier than trying to figure out water temps and hatches and flows, but if the reservoirs do wind up spilling, that will increase water temps a few degrees over colder bottom releases. But it does look like most of this current rain is missing the Catskills. Only time will tell, but I like Hendos by late April still.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    Let's face it, brain surgery is far easier than trying to figure out water temps and hatches and flows, but if the reservoirs do wind up spilling, that will increase water temps a few degrees over colder bottom releases....


    What will happen Brian is that you'll have more flow on the West Branch. As far as mix of water temps, since it is April, and the water from the bottom is 46 and the top is about the same, the mix is negliable.

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    But it does look like most of this current rain is missing the Catskills. Only time will tell, but I like Hendos by late April still.


    It is missing the Catskills. Look at the radar.

    I like Hendos in late April too.

    In New Jersey however.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

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    It is missing the Catskills. Look at the radar.

    I like Hendos in late April too.

    In New Jersey however.
    Which means lower water. Lower water heats up more quickly. The Hendricksons will be long over here in NJ by May one as we have seen them nearly a week now. I'm sticking with April 30th time frame for the upper D. Seldom over the last 15 years other than last year have we seen them start in May and not in April up there. And this spring is on average warmer than last.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    I'm sticking with April 30th time frame for the upper D. Seldom over the last 15 years other than last year have we seen them start in May and not in April up there. And this spring is on average warmer than last.


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    Conditions will dictate when aquatic insects hatch and fish feed - not the other way around.

    A client just called from Manahttan. It's pouring down there he said.

    Not in the Catskills.

    Best to read the USGS charts and radar maps - and forget about the calendar.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

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    Conditions will dictate when aquatic insects hatch and fish feed - not the other way around.
    I agree completely. And I believe that conditions will dictate late April emergence of Hendricksons. As I said, only time will tell which of us is correct

    BTW, the rains are largely over here in northwest NJ. This storm stayed well east and didn't dump nearly as much rain as initially predicted. We need a lot more and soon.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Lets also not forget that its not just about bugs but water temps. Last year- we had bugs by late april but the water temps were in the mid 40s and the fish ignored them until give or take may 10th. This year- we have good water temps, but the bugs aren't developed yet and we are seeing a lag in hatches because of no sunlight getting to the bottom until after April 1st on some stretches. We have decent water temps right now and I expect the fish to get on the bugs better and quicker than last year which is the most important part of the the early spring dry fly game. A hatch without rising fish is absolutely worthless unless u are the guy that would rather watch a bobber all day as the first mayflies of the year come off.


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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    You can bet your last penny that if there is a hatch on there are fish feeding some where in the water column , if they are not taking the adults they are feeding on the nymphs. I would rather fish the dry flies but if they are not feeding on the top get into the game and fish the bottom with nymphs or emergers and catch some fish.

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    Re: West Branch to start spilling on Tues or Wed

    Definitely do-able its just not what you hit the river for after a long winter like the one we had. I am with you though and am always willing to switch up methods rather than just complain the fish aren't rising. Most people on the upper delaware just throw streamers instead which can be good- but when its not working you gotta recognize it and slow things down subsurface with a nymph rig. Sunny days especially. Streamer fishing hasn't been great up there but guys would rather throw a double sex dungeon rig all day in clear ,cold water rather than work a riffle methodically with a nymph rig. The delaware , perhaps more than any other river system I've fished, has a culture of "fish the way you want
    rather than a "do what works" type of mentality. Even the guides- very few good nymphing guides on the delaware. Everyone just looks for heads because its fun and the rivers are laid out that way with a lot of flat pools and nice dry fly water.


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