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    caddis with no hackle?

    hi i am just getting started in tying and do not have any hackle in the right size for small caddis. are their any good dry fly caddis patterns without any hackle?

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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    Hi Alex b,

    One of my favorite patterns is the no hackle caddis tied with only a dubbed body in olive , olive brown or what ever color you like or need to fish the hatch with. A simple wing of elk , deer hair or natural cdc . These flies not only work awesome but are easy to tye as well with a minimum of materials.






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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Broadheadscreek View Post
    Hi Alex b,

    One of my favorite patterns is the no hackle caddis tied with only a dubbed body in olive , olive brown or what ever color you like or need to fish the hatch with. A simple wing of elk , deer hair or natural cdc . These flies not only work awesome but are easy to tye as well with a minimum of materials.


    Agree with BHC... Pick up a few different shades of deer hair for your wings too. I never use hackle on my caddis and they work great.

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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    The CDC & Elk is one of my go-to dry caddis patterns:

    CDC&Elk


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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    The simple caddis work well! Don't forget snowshoe hare for a wing. Add a plastic yarn tail and it is a caddis emerger.

    If you really want to get fancy, leave a few deer hairs uncut and bend them down and trim them as legs. Now you have legs without the hackle.


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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    I would add a ballon caddis to the list.

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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    i like tying them with piece of thread wrapped thorax gives it a ribbed look

    TF

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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffK View Post
    The simple caddis work well! Don't forget snowshoe hare for a wing. Add a plastic yarn tail and it is a caddis emerger.
    It's a very good caddis emerger! The no-hackle is very nice for small caddis. I feel like hackle messes up the profile of the insect. I've caught very few fish on flat water with an EHC, I usually save them for pocket water.


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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    I think the no hackle gives a better profile as the body is in the surface film much like a natural. I have found through extensive fishing of caddis patterns that wing color does not really matter how ever the body and size of your fly does . Wing color is a confidence thing if you have confidence in it it will work for you providing your presentation is good.


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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    I know that the EHC and other similar Caddis dry fly patterns are very popular, but I'll take the hackled fluttering caddis for twitching (slightly) across the surface and enticing stubborn trout. I have tried most of them, but to me it's hats off to Len Wright. A twitched EHC makes a wake and the fly tends to dive. A twitched fluttering caddis skids lightly or pops slightly across the stream. I have also found a dead drift fluttering caddis to be no less effectibve than the EHC, but I suppose it is a waste of good hackle if it never gets twitched.

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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    The x-caddis fits the bill

    Z-lon shuck
    body colour of choice
    elk wing

    I like to put some tan CDC as an underwing

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    Re: caddis with no hackle?

    There is also the rubber legged ding dong fly, the Iris Caddis, and the butch caddis none of those patterns have hackle. One thing to remember when tying caddis dry fliys is that fish key in on the spent or egg laying caddis other then for the occasional drink of water they are gonzo once they emerge. The emergers tend to push through the meniscus very quickly unless it is extremely humid or hot.

    When you tie your caddis remember that the abdomen on the caddis are fuller then the thorax.


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