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Salters/Sea runs in the Hudson?

Catskill Mountain Man

Explore, and implore to explore
I'm not going to say where, but I BELIEVE I've found a population of salters or sea runs in the Hudson valley.

There are multiple small creeks that flow for only short distances within the rugged lower Hudson Valley. One is near where I work and also a place I'm prospecting to crab the mighty muddy Hudson.

I located a cold creek and followed it from it's small mouth upwards. I brought my spin rod and fly rod but realized the small spin rod would be more productive on this tiny stream (I know, I know. I need to get a 5 1/2ft 1 wt). I didn't see any sizable fish but did get some strong tugs from unseen fish and ended the 15-20 mins trip skunked.

Anyway on the was back down to check the traps that I let sit for waaay too long while exploring the stream. I stopped by the mouth of the creek only to see about 5-7 large trout in holding in the mouth.

Let me give you a description of the mouth of the creek. When a large ship rolls by the waves flow up the creek up to the first real riffle.

I stood there in disbelief the sun was bright and there was no mistaking that they were trout. May have been brook, may have been brown. I'm not sure because they were shining silver!

I called over another near-by person for a 2nd opinion but was immediately screamed in my face "JASON!! come here bring your rod!! There are big trout here!!". Some kid came storming at us and as he cast his worm and bobber he threw his rod into the water... Scattering the fish.

I was pissed that I didnt get a picture and pissed at the guy. But after some talk he assured me he was a fellow trout enthusiast and was also sure that what we saw were large silverish trout.

Before the kid got to the side of the creek the fish moved from their hold and I got a perfect look at ones eyes, fins, mouth and head. They were trout and WAY too big for that stream where an 8-10 incher would have been a trophy.

I looked up the stream and its minimal info, and the internet claims it doesn't have rainbow's only brooks and browns.

Has there ever been thought/research into the Hudson's many small streams or larger cold rivers? Some trout must use some form or another of the muddy Hudson to feed.
 
Finding trout stacked up by a cooler feeder stream in no way means they are sea run or salters. They could be stockies from any one of many rivers that were forced into the mouth of this trib to escape the summer's heat. Best to ask NY DEC about it.

Or they might just be mutated creek chubs disfigured from all the dioxin GE dumped in the river :crap::)
 
He also said he wants a 5'6'' 1 weight for "sea run browns" HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA

The 1 weight would def have made for a more successful outing...

If a CP SWING and #1 Blue fox doesn't do it, a 1 weight will.
 
He also said he wants a 5'6'' 1 weight for "sea run browns" HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA

The 1 weight would def have made for a more successful outing...

If a CP SWING and #1 Blue fox doesn't do it, a 1 weight will.

I was targeting small brookies when I ran into the freak's of nature in the mouth of the creek.

With the report of a wild Atlantic salmon being caught off the coast of the Bronx in the Hudson I've been keeping my eye out
 
I was targeting small brookies when I ran into the freak's of nature in the mouth of the creek.

With the report of a wild Atlantic salmon being caught off the coast of the Bronx in the Hudson I've been keeping my eye out

That's a Trojan Magnum. Assuming the color of an actual Atlantic Salmon when submerged and filled with milt, I can see how one could make that mistake.
 
CMM I am not doubting what you have claim to have seen. I was not with you. Could you post an article or a website that contains the proof of The Atlantics caught in Hudson off the Bronx. I have found no information that supports that. You said you set some crab traps in the area around the mouth of the creek. I can assume the water is probably brackish. If the tide is high, the mouth of the creek most likely would be too. Are you sure you did not see Bluefish?
 
CMM I am not doubting what you have claim to have seen. I was not with you. Could you post an article or a website that contains the proof of The Atlantics caught in Hudson off the Bronx. I have found no information that supports that. You said you set some crab traps in the area around the mouth of the creek. I can assume the water is probably brackish. If the tide is high, the mouth of the creek most likely would be too. Are you sure you did not see Bluefish?

S#!^ man I'm pretty freakin positive what I saw was a small pod (5-7) of large silverish trout.

I walk a lot of small creeks and look for trout I'm 100% sure what I saw were trout. The mouth/skull/eye structure was the dead giveaway I got a great look at one when that kid ran up and slightly startled them.

I know the creek holds browns and brooks. And the mouth of the creek was nice and cold. I was thinking they live to move up into the mouth for O2, get spooked by kids and back into the Hudson. When all is clear the go back to the mouth.

Thinking about it I should go back at dusk and cast a line, that's when they'll be active.

Once again I'm certain what I saw were trout, large siliverish trout that were WAY too big to have flopped down the mountain, they would have to be living off the Hudson.

This is the only picture I can find of the creek and it doesn't help much because it's obv taken during a hurricane.

http://cornwall-on-hudson.com/dimages/pv_6801.jpg
 
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