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Catskill Report 5/07/13

Corndog

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I decided to take the afternoon off since it's going to rain the rest of the week and hit the Cats. After reading Alan B's thread on rusty spinners (no brian not you, its not always about you) I wanted to spend the day fishing rusty spinners and post my results.

I normally don't fish rusty spinners (or with rusty spinner) so, I stopped by the Beaverkill Angler in Roscoe to pick some up and chat with Evan and Mat for a few. These are the 3 patterns I purchased.

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Then I headed to Cairns Pool. Looked like opening day there. 11 guys in the water and 6 standing on the bank. At first I thought, doesn't anybody work anymore? Then I realized it was mostly old timers. There was a hint of bengay and brill cream in the air. So I headed down to the Cemetary. 8 people there already. Only 3:30 in the afternoon and already this many people on the river. There were grannoms in the air and on the water but they weren't bringing the fish up. Saw a few sporadic rises but not enough to keep my interest. So I headed to the East Branch. There were guys everywhere. Mostly CT plates in the lots on both rivers. Don't you CT guys have any good fishing water back home? Figuring all the good public spots were going to be taken, I headed up river to a private stretch where I have to ask permission to fish. Fortunately the land owner was outside, just makes it easier. We chatted for a bit then he oked me to fish his land. When I got to the water there were steady risers already. Grannoms were everywhere, in the air and on the water, but the fish wanted nothing to do with them. I looked on the water and there were to many spinners to count. Must have been a great spinner fall last night. I thought I'm in luck since I'm planning on fishing rusty spinners all evening.

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Over the next 4 hours I tested the 3 patterns and managed a few nice brownies.

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Even got a few of these little guys for you guys who like the youngsters.

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Of the three rusty spinners I purchased, only the one in the middle steadily produced fish. It looks like the wings are a dull off white calfs hair (just guessing). The one on the left looks like some kind of bright white synthetic material. I managed one with it, but most rejected it. I couldn't buy a fish with the one on the right also white synthetic material with some flash. At one point there were more than a dozen risers and non would touch the one with the flash.


Now I can't say for certain that all the trout I caught were wild, but the EB brownies are known to be wary fish. They didn't want bright white wings or flashy ones. The dull more natural look was what they were targeting.


I know this is not a very in depth experiment with rusty spinners, but if I'm going to fish a rusty spinner, I think you all know which one I'm going to tie on.

All in all a great day on the water,
Cdog
 
Good possibility TH. I was thinking about pulling out the flash to see if that would make a difference, but then I saw another rise and it slipped my mind.

Cdog
 
I didnt know all of you were up there as well.

I woke up yesterday morning and decided to give roscoe a shot being that I had never fished any of that water.

I caught fish all morning from 10 until about 1 on top on henryville caddis.

Corndog, how could you not notice the only person under 60 in that pool? I was trying to fish but it seemed more like an ice cream social at the pool, so i went to horstadt pool or whatever its called.

On my way home i hit the neversink but to my surprise found no rising fish in the evening.

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IMHO, those rusty spinners - like most bought spinners - do not have sparse enough wings. Those heavy synthetic wings look like a blob in short order and are of the type that gives synthetic wings a bad name. Look at the ones John Collins ties because I know they work. You can barely see the wing. The hackle wing spinners from Baxter House are a favorite of mine. If I have to buy spinners in Roscoe they are the ones I get.
 
It was my thinking that the bright white and flash was the turnoff. I'm going to have to do more research and experimentation on this matter. I will get a couple Baxter House hackle wing spinners and I will also remove some of the synthetic wing to make them more sparse and post my results. All I need now is a good spinner fall and less rain in the forecast.

Cdog
 
Great report and pics, glad somebody is back that makes sense, at least once in a while.
 
Nice fish and report Cdog!! Spinners have been the fly of the moment so far till the march browns get a full head of steam. I tye hackle wings as well they work better then the synthetics for sure. For the ones that tye them build your tail and dub the body then tye in a grizzly or dun hackle as if you were tying a dry fly but keep your wraps tight together. Tye it off and clip the waste now take figure 8 eight turns through and around the hackle training it down to the spent position. When you have them trained down to the sides half hitch in front the dub a thorax over the figure eight wraps you just did finish the head and your done.
 
Great report and nice fish. I agree the grizzly hackle wing spinner is the way to go. The figure 8 wraps come out good but sometimes I have to fiddle with the hackle to make it looks just right. I tie a white Antron post on the back sometimes so I can see the fly in low light.

The fish on the lower east were taking the same fly on Saturday.
 
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