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Alaska!

rford

Less Than Beeko
Well guys, as you can see by my lurking, I made it back from Alaska. Sorry for the delay in offering up a report, so here we go…

This was my second trip to Alaska, but to the same lodge, Anglers Alibi, Alaska Fishing: Angler's Alibi Alaska - Salmon Fishing - Fly Fishing
on the banks of the Alagnak river in the Bristol Bay region of south west Alaska.



The Alagnak river is one of the few rivers in the state that has runs of all 5 species of pacific salmon: King, Sockeye, Chum, Pink ( only on even years) and Silver(Coho). Its headwaters also have Rainbows, Char and Graylings and as I found out, also contain Northern Pike.

King….



Pink…




Silver…



Our trip began on Saturday the 22nd. We flew from LaGuardia to Cincinnati to Anchorage.
We arrived in Anchorage at about 9 pm Saturday. Wired from the trip , we decided to go out for a cocktail. We took a cab to The Great Alaskan Bush Company! I kid you not. As Go-Go bars go it was Ok, although it was a bit touristy and the first Go-Go I have ever been with a gift shop. It was kind of like The Country Bear Jamboree in Disneyworld meets Deadwood. If you feel you need to know more, please check the web site… The Great Alaskan Bush Company

The next morning we headed out to the big city. We hit a few gifts shops in downtown, got our fishing licenses, checked out Ship Creek, the downtown salmon stream (Pulaski on steroids, pure combat fishing at its best) and then as reported played 18 holes of gold at the Anchorage Country Club.



That night all ten members of our group met for dinner, where I monopolized on the local supply of king crab, it was great with the exception of the melted butter substitute that accompanied it. After a couple of days in Alaska you start to realize that not all commodities afforded us in what the mostly refer to as the lower 48 are readily or cheaply available up there. Cigs $ 8.00, 30 Pack of Bud in Cans $ 30.00! And so on…Sorry, no priceless gag here…



Monday at 7:20 am our flight on Penn Air, left for King Salmon, AK (Pop 237), approximately 300 miles South West of Anchorage. We arrived with no delays and by 9:30 were staged across the street from the Airport at the Branch Air “Best in the Bush “(they have a bush fixation up there) Terminal ( a one room cabin ) with a 100 foot walkway out to the river and the docks with its float planes. It would take three full DeHavilland Beaver Float planes (circa 1952 serial number# 444) loads to deliver all 11 (we picked up an extra man in king salmon whom we failed to connect with in anchorage, he had a swell time in king salmon the night before, but he can post that to his own web site in Paris) to the lodge 28 miles due north, with all our luggage, gear and liquor.



By 11:30 am on Monday we all had arrived at the camp with out a Hitch. I was now working a pretty nasty cold as a result of bad air conditioning and close proximity of other peoples sick kids on the plane rides, but the show must go on. Despite the remoteness of this location, the owner has done a great job providing all the comforts of home.



Carl, who runs the camp, announced to us all that there was an unexpected bonus, the King Salmon were still running and the season still ran till the end of July. Albeit that this was good news, not one of us had picked up a King Stamp back in Anchorage as the locals up there advised there was no need as the fish had already come and gone. Hind site reminds me that that would be like taking advice from a fly shop in NJ as to current fishing conditions on a stream in Maine. Regardless, there was a barge upstream from our camp that apparently had a Stamp pad and may be able to accommodate our needs. 9 out of ten of our group got there King Stamp, I was not one of them. I was not being a snob; it was just that I was not that interested in catching fish on conventional tackle.
The set up for kings is to drift over the deep channels with a “Boon Doggeling Rig “
Its basically an Easter egg, painted orange, dragging the bottom with giant tubbie like weights that come in giant rolls, keeping them down, on a conventional rod with a level wind reel.





On average the guys that did it, had a ball, and caught 2-4 fish per day…but, that’s not why I went to Alaska. Then again, I never heard the expression, When the Sun Shines make Hay !



The first three days I spent wade fishing (Tuesday I was mostly in bed) on sand bars of the Alagnak River. An eight weight was sufficient, well unless you pull a bone head maneuver like I did by letting a chum salmon swim between my legs, while trying to land him. Advice… Keep a little slack in the line. The top half of that 2 piece rod is now 9 pieces, I fished a loner 9 wt the rest of the trip.

Fishing on the main River provided constant action. The main quarry was and fresh salmon regardless of species Chum, Pink or Coho. The basic method was to swing a fly down and across. As the action changed, different methods seemed to attract the chrome fish more than the colored up changing fish. Upstream cast with a quick retrieve, jerking motion at the end of a swing at the dangle…it all pretty much worked. I will say this, its not Pulaski, there is no need for 10 oz of split shot on the line. These fish are definitely not eating, but they are definitely taking the fly, you would often see them attack it.



As far as what fly, anything pink, pink and white, pink and silver, it had to be pink though. I guess the salmon must eat a lot of pink food! For the most part a WFF line was fine, although most people were using a ghost tip. I found I picked up more chrome fish with the floating line, avoiding the changing chums.



Funny thing about the chums, after they changed colors they fought better but for some reason, held less intrinsic value. And when I say fought better, that Is an understatement.
These chums could bull dog all day long. This is a river with out a boulder or a log jam, just sand, and yet you would swear you were snagged on the bottom. I know my answer for the age old question “what is the best fighting fish pound for pound?” my answer will now permanently shift from blue fish to chum salmon.

You may ask why I did not King Salmon fish with the fly rod. I tried with a camp rod, a 10 wt with a full sinking line. The problem was, that the camp has 10/11 guts and 4 guides. They run in packs of 2 or 3 guests per guide. The only way to catch the kings would have been for them to dedicate one of there john boats to me so I could get to the deep side of the river and reach the kings in the deep channel, and every one else king fishing was “Boon Doggeling “with 2 or 3 guys per boat, so that possibility was basically shut out.

Tomorrows’ another day…or is it….?



Now, what I really planned to spend most of my seven days doing was rainbow trout fishing or at least 4 days. That finally worked out to 3 days and it almost wound up 2 days. Here is how it worked. If you wanted to go for rainbows you had two options. 2 guys could go on the one jet boat the camp had on a 2 hour upstream ride to what is called the Braids. Or 5 guys could go on a fly out to one of the many smaller rivers in the region that were known for rainbows. When you do a fly out it is not included in price of trip, and that’s why you needed 5 guys to go, to cover the cost of the float plane.
In addition you can save money by doing your fly out as an overnighter, where you really camp out but get two days of fishing in and the float plane only needs to do one round trip.

Contact Creek…



My plan was to do one fly out to a River called Contact Creek, One overnighter to a river called the Moraine, and one jet boat trip to the Braids. Here is where the trip broke down a little. On signing up, I was informed that 10 / 11 people going wanted to go on two fly outs and that several folks were up for the overnighter. Well it did not turn out that way.
I think forking out an extra $ 400 per day turned some of the people off, even though those cards were clearly on the table. In addition the group that did the first fly out on Wednesday ( I was not on that one ) planned on going to the Contact Creek and the weather conditions had them diverted to the Brooks river. It is a great river, but it is in the middle of Park, so there are a lot of tourists who fly in to get the Famous Bear pictures you see on TV of the bears eating salmon at the water falls.



It also has game wardens actually in the trees. No one was planning any violations, but the Park has special regs that you can’t yell at the Bears to clear them from a spot, you can not take a fish out of the water for a picture, etc…. So that group found the trip restrictive and disappointing from a fishing perspective, no lack of fish just lack of opportunity to get to them.



Thursday, Colman and I did our first and only fly out to Contact Creek. This was about 70 miles due SW from the camp. It is a different drainage and closer to the coast. The walk in after the plane dropped us off was about 1.5 miles over defrosted permafrost tundra. It is like walking on a Stairmaster set to Cardiac Infarction; with each peddle having a piece of Bed Mattress strapped to it. Me and my 2 plus pack a day habit combined with my cold, now being bronchitis, had a rough time, but we made it in.

Our Landing Strip…



We made it…



This fishing was great. It was a combination of fresh chrome sea run Char, Graylings and Rainbows. The Char and the Grayling become the nuisance fish. You get a take on almost every cast. The game we played was to site the rainbows sitting below the chums and kings dropping eggs and hope the rainbow got it before the char and graylings.
Once again , the action was non stop.





The tactics were a bit different, but we went with the flow. It’s the “ Bead Egg “ basically the guides have about 20 different colored bead eggs that have been painted to represent a certain type of salmons egg in a certain stage i.e.: freshly laid, fertilized, spent, sun bleached etc.. The egg is slipped on the tipped, and then a hook is snelled on below it about two inches and the egg is pegged off with a toothpick. Also a yarn strike indicator is put on.





Of course I found it my duty to annoy the living crap out of the guide by asking if there was any more sporting/flyesque type of method. And he said you can try nymphs’/streamers/mice etc… however he made a disclaimer he wanted no responsibility if I did not catch anything or very little. He said if you came in late may or June, all of the above would work, but the fish were selectively feeding and suggested I go with the flow.
He than suggested that if he came to the West Branch of the Delaware and put on a bead egg in the middle of a Hendrickson’s hatch would not I think he crazy? I pondered this, and put on my egg and shut up. However I did manage one small trout on a mouse!



That night when we returned to camp with our stories, three of the fellows on the trip wanted to go back to contact creek and they were afforded the ability to take a smaller float plane that would cost the same $, as they had missed it back on Wednesday. Colman and I wanted to go to the Moraine (fly out) or the Braids (jet boat) as we now had rainbow fever, so we went to the Braids and we assumed the other guys went to Contact.



Once again we had a fabulous day with mostly Rainbows this time with a few grayling and Colman even caught a straggler Sockeye that was bright chrome almost 40 miles from the brackish water! Upon return we found out the other fellows could not make up there minds so they wound up Salmon fishing again, and now we only had two days to go on another fly out. As it worked out, it started getting a little bit survivoresque, as we only had 5 people that wanted to do another fly out and 2 of us wanted to go to the Moraine and 3 wanted to go to the Contact Creek. As much as we liked Contact Creek, the Moraine is the hallowed water. It is above the lake that the salmon have to run through to get to there home waters. When the salmon run through the lake it triggers the Rainbows that behave steelheadish to leave the lake and gorge on eggs through September gaining an incredible 1.2 lbs per week. A 24 inch rainbow that normally weighs 4/5 lbs will re-enter the lake for the winter at 10 – 15 lbs! You can see why we wanted to go there.






Alas the 5 of us could not come to agreement, and the bad weather cinched it as no one could go on Saturday, we were punished by having to fish the Alagnak again that was now flush with all species including very chrome pinks and silver salmon.
That day Colman had got a late start and stayed at the camp in the AM to shake off the cold I had given him. When we returned to pick him up, he reported he had caught several sockeyes at the end of the dock. That night when we returned, not satiated by the 50 or so salmon he had hooked that day, Colman started fishing for the sockeyes again. One of the other guests decided to follow suit, instantly hooking into a 28 inch 10 lb Rainbow! I wanted to kill the guy, but instead I ran for the net and assured he would have the trophy on film!

The heartbreaker…


The last day there we were lucky enough to have everyone else defer there interest in Rainbows or fly outs to Salmon, opening up the Jet boat to Colman and my personal use for a final day of Rainbow fishing back at the Braids. It was a stellar day, I would guess we each hooked at least 40 fish and landed 20.

That night we all had one last fabulous meal at the camp, a Prime Rib diner…




with lots of jokes and story telling. It’s a bittersweet ending to have to leave Alaska. You are overjoyed with the fishing and the grandeur of a place truly unspoiled by man, and so glad you were lucky enough to go there and can only hope you get to go again.



Monday morning the float plane picked us up starting at about 10am as it dropped off the next week’s visitor in three trips. 4 Flights later at 11 am Tuesday we got in the car service at LaGuardia, exhausted and satiated from a grand week, as we readjusted to the 100 degree heat of queens, we both silently contemplated this past week and began crafting and scheming what would be our next trip?

“Why are there so many songs about Rainbows?” - Kermit the Frog

“ Somewhere over the Rainbow “ – Judy Garland -

“ The Colors of the Rainbow, So Pretty in the Sky” – Louis Armstrong-

“Hey, Has anyone ever seen a rash like this before?” - Ralph-


Wait , Stop Everything….!!!!!!!!!

NJAngler you did not think I would go without bringing you back a gift , did you?.....




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That was a great report ! Were those rainbows stocked ? JUST KIDDING.
 
Excelent fishing report and pics Ralph it is too bad you werent able to upload that vid of your Hardey reel having a heart attack. Now when I think about beads I will think of Alaska and trout instead or New Orleans and girls gone wild.
 
UNREAL man. I'm still kicking myself in the :bootyshak for going to Alaska in '99 with my wife (girlfriend at the time) and not even think about fishing. I must have been smoking crack !!
 
thewylie said:
Now when I think about beads I will think of Alaska and trout instead or New Orleans and girls gone wild.

Nah, I'll still think about girls gone wild.
 
great report Ralph and I am glad you had a great time but it does highlight the crucial need to have all your ducks in a row and know who you are traveling with. All that scratch to go to ALaska and people are balking on getting to the bows. Would drive me absolutley nuts. On beads, when I guided Bristol Bay, beads were just starting to show themselves and our lodge owner would not let us fish with them. My fellow guides and I spent two weeks coming up with the perfect glow bug but sometimes we would get outfished by the beads so the guide had the right call. It's funny, you fish the same river, same beats for 100 straight day and some cowboy hat soul patched wierdo from Jersey comes up and he wants to fish mice...:bootyshak but I understand you think about these trips all year and when they are not going the way you dreamed, you get a bit bummed. Good job, nice to have you back! :bigfish:
 
C&R said:
UNREAL man. I'm still kicking myself in the :bootyshak for going to Alaska in '99 with my wife (girlfriend at the time) and not even think about fishing. I must have been smoking crack !!
When you went to AK with your girlfriend did she make you wear a hat with PW insignia ;)... that is a sad story but I guess it worked out alright in the long run for you.
 
I did almost this same exact trip two years ago, your post made me re-live the fantastic memories. I never made it up to the braids, one regret I have. The flyout for rainbows was the best part of the trip for me; I went to Moraine and Funnel Creek. I hooked
two dozen in one day, the smallest was probably 4 pounds. Great stuff!
 
CR,

What lodge did u stay at? By the way, the braids are great, but I would take the Moraine anyday over them, in case its ever a choice for u.

Ralph
 
Stayed at Alagnak Lodge, which seems a little more rustic than your photos. While we stayed in a building, we certainly did not get the prime rib service!

I will definitely head back to the region at some point, probably when my little guy is old enough to fly fish.
 
Fly Patterns

Ralph:

I will be leaving for Alaska in a couple of weeks and have been tying flies for my trip, and what fly patterns did you find worked at this time of year?

AKS
 
For the Rainbows is was 99% the bead eggs, sorry to say.
However I did manage one on a derivative mouse pattern.
The guides are very tough to sway from the eggs this time of year.
They suggested articulated streamers if you had to try something else, in white black and flesh colors.

For the Greyling , the bead eggs were once again the trick, but I was able to get quite a bit of refusals on dry flies, but it was suggested # 18 and smaller griffiths gnats may have been the trick on top.

The salmon flys were all large #2 & #4 pink bunny fur with large barbell eyes on Diatichi Red chemically sharpened hooks, i dont know model numbers.

Ralph
 
AKS Hates Bears

Southeast, to Ketchikan.

I was last there in 2001 and the salmon were stacked like cord wood. You don't get the throng of fisherman that the Southwest gets.

That experience has engrained in me a total dislike of BEARS. Yes, AKS does not like bears when he is fishing. Sneaky things, hate it when they come in from behind. More than once I had to break off a fish to lessen that creatures interest in what I was doing. I observed your photo of a bear from a long, long way away. They are fine at the range, I don't like it when your within charging range. My friend who lives there has the whole week planned out with some of his fishing buddies also. The only question I had was, "How many guns are we bring for the bears?"

Back to fishing. You'll still tire your arms, and mind before you get your fill of hauling them in. I also plan on bring a spey rod for the fun of it.

Recently I have built a St Croix 10 ft, 7 wt to go after steelhead, so I can wait to see how she handles.

Ralph, thanks again for the tips on fly selection.

As always, on your side.

AKS

PS,
I will be very happy if I don't come back with ANY photos of bears from this trip.
 
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Ak,

I did not mention this earlier, we did see a few mayflys, but I could not be certain as to what they were.

I saw a 2 tailed size 14 mayfly with a body the color of an Iso and the wings were blue/dun.

A size 14/16 cream colored body mayfly with pale wings, did not catch the tail count.

A size 8/10 brown mayfly , I think it was some type of drake.

Will you be fishing waters that have rainbows/char or greyling?

Also I Have a " Bead box " if you want , and would like to take it with you, I could lend it to you for the trip!

Ralph
 
Ralph,
Did You actually see any fish raising to mayfiles or whatever You tried to immitate with griff gnat? I only have one Alaska trip under my belt (more to come, not soon enough), but I have not seen any thing raising during my trip; I did however get few graylings to attack adams dry, skitted accross the surface. Awsome raises, with graylings comming out of the water and attacking the fly on the way up or down! Lots of misses too.
 
The only rising fish were the greylings in the riffles, I did Not manage any on drys as I came loaded with only giant Wullfs, they would head but it then take off.

However i did manage One rainbow on a Mouse thrown to accross eddy to a bank , then slowly stripped to the seam of the eddy and the current ( blam ) right on the seam.

Also several people managed salmon on the surface with the Pollywog flys that were witin the salmon color preference Pink. It was a curved piece of styrafoam that wiggled accross the surface.

I also caught a Northern Pike. I was retrieving a salmon fly, and right as I was pulling the fly out of water I noticed a follow by fish x? and I dropped my tip and splashed ( dappled ) the streamer on the surnface and the Northern crushed it 9 feet from my hand with about 4 feet of leader out! That was fun and a first.
 
Renegades for Grayling

AKSkim, a number of years back a friend and I had the opportunity to fish to large numbers of grayling in a small feeder creek to a pond in the Wind River Range of Wyoming. By far and away the best pattern was a Renegade dry in size 16 or 18. You might want to bring at least a few of these along to try. Our guide explained that grayling show an affinity for the peacock herl in the pattern. I would be curious to hear if they work as well in Alaska.
 
rford said:
The only rising fish were the greylings in the riffles, I did Not manage any on drys as I came loaded with only giant Wullfs, they would head but it then take off.

I too made the same mistake; following the motto that 'everything is bigger in Alaska', I only had taken size 10-8 caddis pattern and few humpreys. Luckly I found few small adams patterns pinned in my vests patch, and those allowed me to catch few graylings.
Same adams patterns did not work on the lake however; I'd spotted pod of nice graylings feeding on mosquitos or some midges, but could not entice them to take 12 or 14 size fly on flat surface of the lake. Will definitelly take something smaller next time.
 
Alaska ---- The Video

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If you are experiencing technical difficulties, so am I, this is my first shot at Video using youtube, Shaq HELP!

Ralph
 
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