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The Patagonia pants have a zipper and button on them. You can take them off and they look like normal fishing pants that you might wear in the spring or fall. Look around the web, or at the fly fishing show, you don't have to pay the $149 msrp. . I bought mine for under $100 a couple years ago...

I the dead of winter, like now, I wear a pair of Hot Chilly's La Montana base layer pants with a pair of Patagonia insulated shell pants on top. That along with Hot chilly liner socks and Simms Exstream wading socks, I have never been cold. Hot Chillys La Montana Bottom Black - Zappos.com Free...