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well I had many brands over the years, I have to agree with those that had Ovris. So when my tail water XT leaked right at my crotch i canned them and got Simms G3. The best move i ever made. The Gore-Tex is a big difference over laminated material. Its drier, lighter, I'll never go back.

true some pepole are very hard on equipment. But i hear a lot about how good customer service is for this company or that company. I think a sign of a quality product is not having to use their customer service at all. Kinda like the Maytag repairman

same for me regarding Orvis. Most of their stuff is made in China now days and the quality reflects it. My pro guides leaked right out of the box. My second pair I have had 3 years now and the built in boots are cracking. My uncles Simms going on 6 years. I ordered a pair. will be fishing in...