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View Poll Results: Do Trebble hooks do more damage to trout than single hooks?

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by NJAngler View Post
    Are the odds higher that a treble will do more damage? Of course, but a high % of fish I hook using barbless spinners are hooked by one point and rarely all three. A good 25-30% also fall off before i can even land them whereas "falloffs" for barbed flies are generally rare. most trout lost are because the tippet breaks and not so much the hook coming out. Not sure how many of you use barbless flies but I imagine falloffs there are also quite high.

    Mark
    Thanks for clearing that up for us! This is a very sound argument to support the use of trebel hooks on WTSs. And to think, some of us actually thought the resource was more important than keeping our catch numbers up.

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by NJAngler View Post
    A good 25-30% also fall off before i can even land them whereas "falloffs" for barbed flies are generally rare. most trout lost are because the tippet breaks and not so much the hook coming out. Not sure how many of you use barbless flies but I imagine falloffs there are also quite high.

    Mark
    I personally lost 4 large fish last night with a barbed popper. No break offs. I have also lost a few trout in the barbless hookup when I didn't loose the pressure on the fish. would a barb have helped land the fish? Yes/Maybe, but handling the fish is what the barbless is all about and getting the fish back in the water with as little damage as possible. LDR's seems to be the same for me barbed or barbless. As above less time to set the fish back sometimes without even handling the fish. I don't see that happening often with a treble hook. yes it can I've done it with my forcepts or needle nose when Pike fishing.

    I doubt some could even imagine not handling a fish they spent time catching. I can and do as do other's here.


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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    The other day while fishing the WB with my Wife, I would hook into a fish and it would get off. One fish would have probably been the biggest fish of the year had the hook not broke right in the middle. Just knowing that I tied on the right fly to fool a fish 60 feet away into taking it was plenty excitement for me. Would I have liked to land it, sure but I think it was actually more exciting and interesting that I hooked it and lost it. Interesting because that's the one that I remember (broke my hook right in half).

    If I catch 1 fish on the D in my 12hrs of fishing, that's plenty more satisfying to me than catching 30 10" fish in some WTS. Doesn't that get friggen boring?

    There has to be a challenge for me to find it rewarding. Shit... I can put 20 trout in a bucket in my backyard and catchem all over and over again. Now there's an idea.

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    I outfish Mark all the time. I may fish the same 20 foot pool all day long while he covers miles with his spinning outfit. The number of fish caught per foot of stream is much higher for me.

    While large fish does have it's attraction, wild trout with vibrant colors, even if they are 5 inch trout, are special too. Now if that large trout you lost was wild (I'm guessing it was), then you have the best of both worlds.


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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by klg neighbor View Post
    Now if that large trout you lost was wild (I'm guessing it was), then you have the best of both worlds.
    And there's the source of the addiction. That is called "angler's crack". Er, uh, no that's not the image I wanted to present. I think Dr JM did that already today. Angler's heroin - that's what I meant. Highly addictive and most would sell their soul to the devil to keep doing it.


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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    I tend to use allot of small flies this time of the year and they are all barbed. But I always get rid of the barb on spinners and beetles of any size since trout seem to enhale them. Without the barbs I can extract those flies easily. I catch fish on the WB of the D and you can tell by their lips and busted mandibles that they have been hooked with treble hooks.

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    I was killing time once for bass with a spinner of some sort, this was before my eye opening and becoming a purist. Anyway I hooked a tiny bass, maybe 4 inches long. The treble on this spinner became stuck between his lips and there was just enough room to get it out. I had to do a job just to get it out and needless to say he was out of the water for a while. Luckily a bass is a resilient fish, if it was a trout he probably would have died.

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by klg neighbor View Post
    I outfish Mark all the time. I may fish the same 20 foot pool all day long while he covers miles with his spinning outfit. The number of fish caught per foot of stream is much higher for me.
    Nice try but I won't take the bait - excuse me - fly


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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by NJAngler View Post
    Nice try but I won't take the bait - excuse me - fly
    Damn!

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by dcabarle View Post
    If I catch 1 fish on the D in my 12hrs of fishing, that's plenty more satisfying to me than catching 30 10" fish in some WTS. Doesn't that get friggen boring?

    There has to be a challenge for me to find it rewarding. Shit... I can put 20 trout in a bucket in my backyard and catchem all over and over again. Now there's an idea.
    Never boring only because the next cast could produce a 15" wild brown. Every - and I do mean every - wild brown trout stream holds a few trophy fish(14" or more)I may get 8 hours straight of 6 to 10" browns on 4 diff't streams but just knowing a whopper may be next is enough to keep me motivated and attentive.

    native brookie and wild bows the same thing: Plenty of 5" dinks along the way but once in awhile a nice 11 or 12" beauty shows up that can really make my day.

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    Re: Barbed trebble hooks = trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by dcabarle View Post
    If I catch 1 fish on the D in my 12hrs of fishing, that's plenty more satisfying to me than catching 30 10" fish in some WTS. Doesn't that get friggen boring?
    I have never caught 30 10" wild trout in any WTS in the Northeast, where I have done all of my fly fishing. I have fished the the Mainstem and caught a few trout in the 12-16 inch range in one day and it was a good experience. However, a good day on a WTS, which requires a different approach, is for me more of a challenge and is extremely satisfying. A 10 inch wild brook trout in a small WTS to me is like catching an 18" trout in the WB.

    Actually, I should not be encouraging anyone, and come to think of it, I fished a small WTS this morning and it was boring as hell, and I am never going to do it again. I urge everyone else to do the same.

    However, I have a 3 year old grandson that would like to go fishing, and if he could hook some of those easy to catch 10 inch wild trout he may find it fun, at least for a while. So please PM some of the spots so I can take the little tike out.

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