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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    all this knot-weed scare crap is from a bunch of pseudoscience herbologists trying to keep their grants funded. Can't believe you rubes fall for it.


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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    So I've done a lot of research on how to actually get rid of knotweed, and the options are very limited. Pulling them out when they first appear, before they establish, is a good option. However, if you leave behind even a small part of the rhizome, it will come back, so you need to do this several times. Once established, repeatedly mowing them down will slowly deplete the stored starch in the rhizome system, so the plant will eventually not be able to fuel new growth and die. This takes over a year of repeated mowing though. The plants are very resistant to glyphosate (Roundup) also. You need to cut the plants, and squirt Roundup into the stalk immediately because it begins to heal in about 30 sec. You may need to do this several times also to get rid of the plant. Up in VT by where my parents live, some knotweed started to appear last year, probably brought there in the dirt when they repaired the road in the spring. I had to employ the Roundup method twice before the plants didn't come back again. Lets see what happens this spring. A local civic group also went on a knotweed control initiative, isolating different areas and trying different methods. They failed miserably, and didn't like my Roundup method, because they were pseudo-tree huggers from VT (even though the farmer down the road grows genetically modified corn thats resistant to the stuff). In short, I think that we're all fooked when it comes to the knotweed.

    Ironically, its our desire for nice plants and landscaping that's had a bigger impact on our environment vs. climate change. Also look up how earthworms (an invasive species in the north) changed the landscape from when the first settlers brought them over in root balls and dry ballast.

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    all this knot-weed scare crap is from a bunch of pseudoscience herbologists trying to keep their grants funded. Can't believe you rubes fall for it.
    Naaaa, the global warming guys will bury us tiny knotweed people, because no one gives a shit about fishing or actual ecology. Knotweed isn't as good of a propaganda device as global warming.

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    I hear the fishing in Venice has gotten more convenient.

    The NYNJTC (trail conference) has an evasive species strike force. I wonder if they'd be interested in helping eradicate the evil weed.


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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    I hear the fishing in Venice has gotten more convenient.

    The NYNJTC (trail conference) has an evasive species strike force. I wonder if they'd be interested in helping eradicate the evil weed.
    Well, Venice has been slowly sinking for the last 300yrs, the fishing is only gonna get more convenient.

    I think the bus has left the station on the knotweed, don't think there's any eradicating it. The best they can do is maybe slow it down from infesting new areas. Plus knotweed just isn't a sexy enough cause because you can't tie it to global warming, so no one will pay attention.

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Venice slowly sinking for 300 years? Read that somewhere in the commie liberal media. no doubt placed there by a bunch of pseudo science geologists and historians from some ivory tower keeping their grants funded. damn elites telling us what to think.


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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Unlike the pseudo-science of anthropogenic climate change, Venice is in fact built on what is essentially a tidal bog. Around 120 small islands in what used to be a wetland environment. So yea, it’s eventually gonna sink below water level.

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    I get it. Only the thousands of scientist that claim mankind contributes to global warming are charlatans. The rest are OK. I say they're all self-interested crooked elitists telling us what to think from their ivory towers through the liberal media.


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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    I get it. Only the thousands of scientist that claim mankind contributes to global warming are charlatans. The rest are OK. I say they're all self-interested crooked elitists telling us what to think from their ivory towers through the liberal media.
    Yes, they are. Look who sponsors them. The natural world does not stay static, its always changing, and that goes for climate as well. Its either getting warmer, or getting colder, and sometimes that happens relatively quickly. Look at how the Sahara went from a temperate and life sustaining Savannah to a desert 8000 years ago. This happened in a span of 4 centuries. But hey, lets ignore all common sense and natural history, and any other factors involved with something as complex as climate change, and say its man made.

    Anthropogenic global warming is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated on a global scale. A Globalist goal adopted as a way to control the entire population through manufactured fear that can neither be proven false or true. Every weather event is exploited as proof, contrary evidence is denounced as not valid and short sighted. The perfect propaganda device. And surprise, surprise, the "solution" always comes down to taking money out of your pocket through legislation. This is the perfect evolution to the ozone hole (that they proved always existed). But keep believing like the rest of the sheep. Baahhh, Baahhh!

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Nazi View Post
    Yes, they are. Look who sponsors them. The natural world does not stay static, its always changing, and that goes for climate as well. Its either getting warmer, or getting colder, and sometimes that happens relatively quickly. Look at how the Sahara went from a temperate and life sustaining Savannah to a desert 8000 years ago. This happened in a span of 4 centuries. But hey, lets ignore all common sense and natural history, and any other factors involved with something as complex as climate change, and say its man made.

    Anthropogenic global warming is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated on a global scale. A Globalist goal adopted as a way to control the entire population through manufactured fear that can neither be proven false or true. Every weather event is exploited as proof, contrary evidence is denounced as not valid and short sighted. The perfect propaganda device. And surprise, surprise, the "solution" always comes down to taking money out of your pocket through legislation. This is the perfect evolution to the ozone hole (that they proved always existed). But keep believing like the rest of the sheep. Baahhh, Baahhh!
    I tend to agree with Trout Nazi. This propaganda is necessary to keep "science" relevant. There would be zero money to be made in innovation and technology without the false-hysteria that's rolling down Global Warming Mountain. Don't let this hoax steam-roll you folks.

    Big Oil interest groups, on the other hand, have zero incentive to introduce a narrative that challenges the credibility of anthropogenic climate change. I haven't given it too much thought, but it would be absolutely ridiculous to think that source-cues from the politicians they bank-roll trickle down into the dialectic. Keep your eyes open folks.

    No matter what you believe in, I think we can all agree that a more sustainable and environmentally friendly energy model is bad. Pass the Hamburger Helper.

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by moosekid View Post
    I tend to agree with Trout Nazi. This propaganda is necessary to keep "science" relevant. There would be zero money to be made in innovation and technology without the false-hysteria that's rolling down Global Warming Mountain. Don't let this hoax steam-roll you folks.

    Big Oil interest groups, on the other hand, have zero incentive to introduce a narrative that challenges the credibility of anthropogenic climate change. I haven't given it too much thought, but it would be absolutely ridiculous to think that source-cues from the politicians they bank-roll trickle down into the dialectic. Keep your eyes open folks.

    No matter what you believe in, I think we can all agree that a more sustainable and environmentally friendly energy model is bad. Pass the Hamburger Helper.
    Why would you want to live in a cleaner world? Cool clean water everywhere, and sustainable energy? It's a damn hoax..drill baby drill, fill the conglomerates pockets, they'll get your money one way or another. In these parts we just call it helper Sparky...

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    Re: Hatch charts and climate change

    You guys crack me up. What sustainable energy other than fossil fuels do you speak of? Please, give me an example. Wind, solar, hydro? Technologies that have all been around for ages, but at the end of the day are not scalable (except for hydro, but that’s bad because it dams our trout streams up), or else they would have been scaled already. The oil companies are like the gun companies and tobacco, and easy target. Oil is why the world is getting hotter, gun companies are why people are losing their minds, cigarettes harvest themselves, roll themselves, stick themselves in your mouth, and light themselves up. All a very convenient story the fits your narrative. The reality is that things like battery power (that only addresses cars) is a distraction if you believe in the carbon dioxide causing climate change bullshit, but there sure are a lot of people lined up to make a fortune off of this (I guess these guys have no lobbies either?). The only thing that gets us off of fossil fuels is a scientific discovery on the scale of the discovery of nuclear power. Think along the lines of finding a way to wirelessly transfer electricity over thousands of miles. Then again, burning fossil fuels ain’t why the climate changes, but keep drinking that Cool-Aid.

    You want clean water? Stop dumping shit into it, pretty simple. The worst part of this entire climate change BS is that it distracts from things that we actually can affect. And the biggest irony of all is that big oil is spending the most on finding sustainable energy, so that they can patent it of course, but if you think that anyone is looking into alternative energy for altruistic reasons, that’s another bit of delusion you’re living under.

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