Islamberg in Catskills

[dcabarle]

We all knew it existed. Found this in my inbox today. The fishing community is doomed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/n...g-news&ref=cta

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[Pete]

They should open a fishing/hunting camp.
The restaurant wouldn't serve pork, but venison and most game birds are halāl.
Sorry, no beer

[WBDluver]

I may have to turn my drift boat into a gun boat to patrol the river

[hatchman]

They pretty much keep to themselves and don't bother anyone. Whenever I've been down doing anything at the diner,they'll stop by and say hello and couldn't be nicer. I've joked with them about Islamburg being a terrorist training camp ,and they'll smile and laugh and tell me how many times people call the FBI on them when the local quarry nearby blasts . A friend of mine called me last week and said a TV camera crew was down by the diner ,so I drove down there and they were there to cover the story about the 3 goofballs they arrested in Rochester who made bomb threats. I used to own a Pizza place in Newark, That was way more dangerous than being near Islamburg. I had an employee who was a big black guy who converted to Islam in prison. This guy was one of the nicest guys I ever knew,and always had my back if any shit went down with any knuckleheads from the nearby projects. Was a solid stand up guy.I asked him why he converted to Islam in prison and he said he found a peace and respect for himself that he never had before,and he changed his life around when he got out of prison. I really respected and liked this guy,and was proud to call him a friend .Every religion has their fanatics and bad apples ,from what I've experienced ,and talked to local people and police,the residents of Islamburg pretty much just want to live in peace ,and actually came down and helped out and fed people when the big floods happened a few years back.
I put the restaurant on the back burner this year,been super busy with some other things,but plan to start working on it this spring
And get it open.

[Rusty Spinner]

I may have to turn my drift boat into a gun boat to patrol the river

It's not like you were catching fish out of it anyway. At least now it will serve some purpose on the river.

[MACFLY]

They pretty much keep to themselves and don't bother anyone. Whenever I've been down doing anything at the diner,they'll stop by and say hello and couldn't be nicer. I've joked with them about Islamburg being a terrorist training camp ,and they'll smile and laugh and tell me how many times people call the FBI on them when the local quarry nearby blasts . A friend of mine called me last week and said a TV camera crew was down by the diner ,so I drove down there and they were there to cover the story about the 3 goofballs they arrested in Rochester who made bomb threats. I used to own a Pizza place in Newark, That was way more dangerous than being near Islamburg. I had an employee who was a big black guy who converted to Islam in prison. This guy was one of the nicest guys I ever knew,and always had my back if any shit went down with any knuckleheads from the nearby projects. Was a solid stand up guy.I asked him why he converted to Islam in prison and he said he found a peace and respect for himself that he never had before,and he changed his life around when he got out of prison. I really respected and liked this guy,and was proud to call him a friend .Every religion has their fanatics and bad apples ,from what I've experienced ,and talked to local people and police,the residents of Islamburg pretty much just want to live in peace ,and actually came down and helped out and fed people when the big floods happened a few years back.
I put the restaurant on the back burner this year,been super busy with some other things,but plan to start working on it this spring
And get it open.

Wait I thought you were gonna open a fried chicken place

[WBDluver]

It's not like you were catching fish out of it anyway. At least now it will serve some purpose on the river.

ohh ouch! Im going to have to hit this site more often to check to see if my good name is being slandeded.

Next time your fishing your cabin at windtalker im going to anchor up in front of you and fish my squirminator

[hatchman]

Wait I thought you were gonna open a fried chicken place

Was super busy this past year. Will be doing something with it this year.

[JOE.T]

Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani, the Pakistani Sufi cleric whom the Islamberg residents call their spiritual leader, has long been suspected of being one of the founders of a group called Jamaat al-Fuqra, a group that the U.S. and Pakistan say is responsible for a long list of terrorist activities around the world, including murders of rival religious figures in the U.S.

Gilani also was the man American reporter Daniel Pearl was going to see when he was abducted and murdered.




NYPD Counter-Terrorism Investigations

The NYPD’s investigation into MOA included penetrating the organization with an informant named Ali Abdel-Aziz, who was a member for at least 8 years and lived at Islamberg for two years. He is a major figure in the Mixed Martial Arts industry.

He began telling his story in 2011 by talking to activist Martin Mawyer, President of the Christian Action Network, who has released a documentary[32] and book about Fuqra/MOA.[33] Reporter Mike Russell than begin a series of investigative exposes about Ali’s life, revealing a complicated spy story.[34][35]

More comprehensive information about Ali Abdel-Aziz can be found in the section of this website dedicated to first-hand testimony.

Islamberg and MOA’s New York network were under New York Police Department (NYPD) investigation as of 2009. A NYPD counter-terrorism document from 2006 lists MOA as a “Tier One Group” for intelligence-gathering and indicated it was penetrated by an informant but the Department did not have an undercover officer inside the group. [36] An October 2007 NYPD document shows that a surveillance camera was set up on a pole near 1291 Dean St. in Brooklyn for a case involving MOA.[37]

A 2009 NYPD document shows that Fuqra/MOA was the subject of a Terrorism Enterprise Investigation (TEI #14/03) and one MOA member of concern was under surveillance as part of the Terrorism Enterprise Investigation into the Tablighi Jamaat group.

It stated that Mian Ahmad, who lived at Islamberg “for some time” and “was and may still be” a member of MOA, is a member of the Masjid Zakariyya mosque in Buffalo that is part of the Tablighi Jamaat network. It said that Mian Ahmad is on a terrorism watch list. Three other attendees of the mosque, Farid Bhana, Abdulmuqeet Choudhury and Muhammad Sadruzzaman, were identified as being on terrorism watch lists.

Sadruzzaman is named as a possible member of a terrorist organization and it says he led a “jamaat” from the mosque attended by MOA member Mian Ahmad to Masjid Al-Huda in Lackawanna. The leader of the mosque attended by Ahmad and the New York Tablighi Jamaat network arranged various international trips of concerns, including ones that included terrorism suspects and involved stays in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Talagan-Multan, Pakistan.[38]

[mudbug201]

So the NYPD investigated Islamberg. And... ?

You know who else the NYPD investigated in recent years? Hundreds of random Muslim student groups and mosques all over the region, something they had no business doing. In Jersey, the NYPD got sued for violating civil liberties and pretty much had their asses handed to them. I believe they've scaled back these investigations in recent years, realizing they overstepped.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/ne...ram/488081002/

https://www.ap.org/ap-in-the-news/20...over-northeast

Don't buy these cloak-and-dagger guilt-by-association scare tactics Joe! Talk to people like Hatchman who have actually dealt with Islamberg residents. They're being scapegoated.

(cue obligatory goat fucking joke. I put it on a tee for you dennis)

[falcon]

Others get investigated via unfounded FISA warrants and secret courts. Others get spied upon without warrants. Has their ass been handed to them?

[cocopelao]

The NYPD hoped to identify groups that were radicalizing other Muslims in order to prevent future attacks in NYC. The use of the terms "investigate and enforcement" is not accurate when it's documented that in these alleged "civil rights violations", the NYPD merely had informants attend mosques during scheduled service and attend open/advertized student forums to listen to the content of their discussion as well as listen to speakers the mosque and student groups invited to speak to their members.
The NYPD also didn't get their asses handed to them in the ruling. They came to an agreement in line with the NYPD's long standing HANDSHU protocols.
I applaud the NYPD for attempting to prevent another terrorist attack in NYC and the surrounding area.