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    Train Derails on West Branch

    A train derailed on the West Branch near Hale Eddy. I hear about 4000 gal of oil or gas along with construction debris is in the river. Hopefully the high flows will help disperse everything

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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    Quote Originally Posted by falcon View Post
    A train derailed on the West Branch near Hale Eddy. I hear about 4000 gal of oil or gas along with construction debris is in the river. Hopefully the high flows will help disperse everything
    High flows just makes it someone else’s peroblem.


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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    http://www.wbng.com/story/38846595/t...k_WBNG_12_News

    We must ban trains in the Catskills.

    John
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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    trains got us into this mess in the first place...

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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    While this sucks big time, that amount of fuel should disperse quickly from a one-time event. It helps that it’s lighter than water and biodegradable. Something similar happened up in VT a few years back when 2000 gallons of diesel from a ruptured tank dumped into a tiny trout stream that I fish, with zero impact.

    Roll up the windows Brian, you're letting the stank out.

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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    Quote Originally Posted by moosekid View Post
    trains got us into this mess in the first place...
    Trains don't kill trout, people kill trout...and Herons, and Pikes, and Dawn dish detergent...

    "I'm not out on the river to win." -Kieth Rutherford

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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    Hopefully the cheap Kenyan dry flies that all the shops are selling will actually float now.. lol

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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    So the train was coming from Jersey, carrying sulfuric acid, contaminated soils and radioactive contaminated soils... Let's see the DRBC ban shipments like this.
    Yeah, of course not...

    DC needs a TRAIN FREE CATSKILLS banner...
    Yeah, of course not...


    http://www.wbng.com/story/38846595/t...taminated-soil

    Train was hauling corrosive liquid, contaminated soil
    Posted: Aug 09, 2018 3:41 AM EDT
    Updated: Aug 09, 2018 12:25 PM EDT
    By Seth FinkelsteinCONNECT
    By Nicky HicklingCONNECT


    By Esperanza GutierrezCONNECT

    The Latest: Train was hauling corrosive liquid, contaminated soil
    03:04
    Live from Deposit train derailment - 12 p.m. Thursday
    01:55
    Train derailment in Deposit
    03:08

    10:32 P.M. UPDATE:

    DEPOSIT (WBNG) -- The Department of Environmental Conservation said the train that derailed Thursday morning had radioactive content on it.

    That radioactive content was in train cars that stayed upright, and did not spill.

    The DEC said none of the content spilled into the Delaware River.

    It also says the spill has since been contained.

    The train was also carrying cars with sulfuric acid, radioactive soils, and nonradioactive contaminated soil.

    Thursday evening crews were working along the railroad tracks near Hale Eddy Road.

    The National Park Service said two locomotives were removed early Thursday afternoon.

    Employees from the New York Susquehanna and Western Railway say they were in the process of putting together rail ties. They say part of the train destroyed rail ties, making it almost impossible to drive on them.

    Thursday evening part of the train was able to move to Hancock. The other half is what crews still need to pick up.

    Residents in the area say they saw the diesel fuel that landed into the Delaware River.

    "This woman stopped us and showed me some photos of geese up in the river that were covered in oil," said Jolene Smith of Hale Eddy. "So I went up this afternoon and found them a long the edge of the river and they were just covered from head to toe."

    At the time the train was traveling into Deposit the area was under a state of emergency.

    Crews with the New York Susquehanna and Western Railway did not wish to speak on camera about this.

    12 News did reach out to their office in Cooperstown and were told no one would be available for an on-camera interview.

    Despite the derailment happening in Delaware county 12 News reached out to his office since the train was headed to the Binghamton area and Broome County had declared the state of emergency.

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    6:00 P.M. UPDATE:

    DEPOSIT (WBNG) -- Route 17 East between exits 83 and 84 are open as two lanes again.

    The cranes have arrived to Hale Eddy Road to start removing the derailed cars. State police said removing the derailed cars and clean up could take days.

    The National Park Service have confirmed that 4,000 gallons of diesel fuel did spill from one locomotive. The Department of Environmental Conservation said the diesel fluid on the water is very thin and remains on the surface.

    The National Park Service said two locomotives were extricated earlier this afternoon.

    12:15 P.M. UPDATE:

    The National Park Service is warning people to stay away from the Delaware River near Deposit because of the train derailment Thursday morning.

    "New York Department of Environmental Conservation estimates up to 4000 gallons of diesel fuel leaked with a significant amount' having spilled into the river," according to the park service.

    Park service officials say the diesel oil slick "has entered the main stem of the Delaware River and can be seen as far down as the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission’s Buckingham Access."

    Authorities say Wednesday night's rain is pushing the diesel fuel down the river at a higher than normal rate.

    "River users are advised not to come in contact with the water and swimming is not advised at this time," the park service said.

    Property owners are asked to notify the National Park Service if they notice any fuel in pools and near or on the shoreline by calling Superintendent Kris Heister at 570-729-8251 ext. 2225.

    John
    Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk.--Henry David Thoreau

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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    I passed the clean up and emergency crews Thursday morning while driving on rt17 east bound and you could smell the diesel fuel in the air while driving by. As previously mentioned ,the high flows due to the heavy rain will help dilute and disperse the diesel fuel,still sucks though. Thank God the Sulphuric acid didn't spill into the river. That would have been a much bigger disaster. I've read stories of acid spills from trains into rivers killing all aquatic life and fish in a large part of the river.


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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    Quote Originally Posted by moosekid View Post
    trains got us into this mess in the first place...
    Yeah....Those pesky McCloud river 20" torpedo like rainbows.....Lol!


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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    Quote Originally Posted by hatchman View Post
    I passed the clean up and emergency crews Thursday morning while driving on rt17 east bound and you could smell the diesel fuel in the air while driving by. As previously mentioned ,the high flows due to the heavy rain will help dilute and disperse the diesel fuel,still sucks though. Thank God the Sulphuric acid didn't spill into the river. That would have been a much bigger disaster. I've read stories of acid spills from trains into rivers killing all aquatic life and fish in a large part of the river.
    Oil and water don’t mix, so dilution is out of the question. The high waters makes it difficult if impossible to contain the oil and therefore will be someone else’s problem down stream.


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    Re: Train Derails on West Branch

    Quote Originally Posted by njcaddis View Post
    Oil and water don’t mix, so dilution is out of the question. The high waters makes it difficult if impossible to contain the oil and therefore will be someone else’s problem down stream.
    Hopefully they’ll be able to use some type of oil boom down the
    Line to skim the diesel fuel . I remember hearing about a type of
    Enzyme that digests and breaks down the oil also. During
    The major floods of years past I’m sure almost as much or more
    Heating oil and diesel was washed into the river and it rebounded .


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