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    Re: the drought that wont end

    That stinky barracuda ate a dry!!!!


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    Re: the drought that wont end

    The inflow to the Cannonsville appears to be far from over.With numbers like this below there actually is a chance it could spill.

    In other words to much volume coming in, cant release enough going out.

    http://www.weather.gov/erh/mmefs_mar...N6&model=NAEFS

    Fred Sent me this as well.They are not reducing the flows to 300 CFS tomorrow.

    Here's an update from the NYC Department of Environmental Protection on the recent water releases from the Cannonsville and Pepacton reservoirs to the West and East Branches of the Upper Delaware River:

    Hi, folks. I'm following up from my note last week with a quick update on New York City's reservoir storage and release plans.

    Because of rain and snowmelt, the past three days have brought a combined total of 17 billion gallons of runoff into Cannonsville and Pepacton. While we're happy to see the reservoirs refilling, DEP must also strive to meet a storage objective in its reservoirs this time of year. The FFMP says we should aim to keep storage no higher than 93 percent as of now.

    That is why we began larger releases from Cannonsville Reservoir last week. We have been releasing 1,500 cubic feet per second (975 mgd) from Cannonsville into the West Branch, and we plan to continue that for at least the next week. We will not be ramping down this weekend as previously planned. Doing so would cause the reservoir to fill beyond the objective and cause it to spill earlier.

    We have also increased releases from Pepacton Reservoir. We are currently releasing about 835 cubic feet per second (450 mgd) into the East Branch. That will likely continue for at least the next week as well.

    I hope this information is helpful. And, as always, please feel free to email or call with any questions.

    Best,

    Adam Bosch , Director of Public Affairs, NYC Environmental Protection, Bureau of Water Supply


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    Re: the drought that wont end

    I see alewives in our future......

    Tonight into tomorrow is supposed to bring another 1" to 2" or more of rain throughout the region. I think you're correct about a spill soon, JOE.T

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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Worth the drive up with the switch rod to swing alewifes if it happens i assume? All while staying out of the water I also assume?


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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
    Let the melting begin!

    https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/u...cd=00065,00060

    Don't get excited, it won't last.
    When you saw Walton was at 2720 and dropping you assumed the snow melt was done.

    Its been going up since this post and has never gone below the 2720 when you posted this----It is far from over.

    You failed to take into consideration that there was a lot more snow left than you assumed,the weather was warming up and the forecast called for a wet couple of weeks (rain).

    This helps to ---- http://www.weather.gov/erh/mmefs_mar...N6&model=NAEFS

    Which BTW takes everything I said and just calculates it.Its a forecast it's not written in stone.But I think it demonstrates the inflow continuing to rise goes through 4/7


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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Quote Originally Posted by JOE.T View Post
    When you saw Walton was at 2720 and dropping you assumed the snow melt was done.

    Its been going up since this post and has never gone below the 2720 when you posted this----It is far from over.

    You failed to take into consideration that there was a lot more snow left than you assumed,the weather was warming up and the forecast called for a wet couple of weeks (rain).

    This helps to ---- http://www.weather.gov/erh/mmefs_mar...N6&model=NAEFS

    Which BTW takes everything I said and just calculates it.Its a forecast it's not written in stone.But I think it demonstrates the inflow continuing to rise goes through 4/7
    http://www.weather.gov/images/nerfc/ops/sd1_today.jpg

    Joe, when I said it wouldn't last, I was assuming nothing as you said. I don't really have to assume. I work in the watershed. I SAW the snow. If you look at the graph you'll see that a day and a half or so after my post the level had stopped rising, flattened out and was headed down. There is no snow left save for some shaded areas and some plowed piles. The current rise is due to the rain. And rain it has. The water lords should be happy.

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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    I see alewives in our future......

    Tonight into tomorrow is supposed to bring another 1" to 2" or more of rain throughout the region. I think you're correct about a spill soon, JOE.T
    Looks like more rain next week.

    https://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin...y=Walton%2C+NY


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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
    http://www.weather.gov/images/nerfc/ops/sd1_today.jpg

    Joe, when I said it wouldn't last, I was assuming nothing as you said. I don't really have to assume. I work in the watershed. I SAW the snow. If you look at the graph you'll see that a day and a half or so after my post the level had stopped rising, flattened out and was headed down. There is no snow left save for some shaded areas and some plowed piles. The current rise is due to the rain. And rain it has. The water lords should be happy.
    Right after you posted on the 27th we had 1 big rise with the inflow from Snow melt.We also use snow pack reports from NOAA. https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/u...cd=00065,00060

    The big jump yesterday and today was from rain.

    Either way you predicted it would not last long, and that was the furthest thing from what is happening now.

    More importantly the Drought is over and has ended.Time for a new post..."The water that wouldn't stop"


    TIGHT LOOPS AND TIGHT LINES


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    Re: the drought that wont end

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOE.T View Post
    Right after you posted on the 27th we had 1 big rise with the inflow from Snow melt.We also use snow pack reports from NOAA. https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/u...cd=00065,00060

    The big jump yesterday and today was from rain.

    Either way you predicted it would not last long, and that was the furthest thing from what is happening now.

    More importantly the Drought is over and has ended.Time for a new post..."The water that wouldn't stop"


    TIGHT LOOPS AND TIGHT LINES
    Joe
    I wrote "let the melting begin. Don't get excited it won't last "
    The melting, Joe.
    Rain. It tends to bring up flows. Yes, that happens.
    You told me how I underestimated the amount of snow in the mountains...
    Did you take a look at the noaa map of snow cover? NONE in all of Delaware county.
    The snowmelt was over, just as I said.
    Opening day... Get out there with a streamer. They'll be hugging the banks...

    John
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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
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    Joe
    I wrote "let the melting begin. Don't get excited it won't last "
    The melting, Joe.
    Rain. It tends to bring up flows. Yes, that happens.
    You told me how I underestimated the amount of snow in the mountains...
    Did you take a look at the noaa map of snow cover? NONE in all of Delaware county.
    The snowmelt was over, just as I said.
    Opening day... Get out there with a streamer. They'll be hugging the banks...
    Opening day is all year up there on border waters.....Yes we looked at the NOAA map 3 DAYS AGO and today and there is still snow up in the mountains !

    Don't do streamers!!!!! and never go out on the official opening day.To many knuckleheads out there.

    Actually here is snow map report that shows 3/4 of an inch of water as of today from snow left ! Go argue with NOAA

    Time to move on from amateur hour here.

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    Re: the drought that wont end

    That was the most entertaining argument on NEFF since Beetle dried out......

    "I'm not out on the river to win." -Kieth Rutherford

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    Re: the drought that wont end

    Quote Originally Posted by lightenup View Post
    That was the most entertaining argument on NEFF since Beetle dried out......
    Whoever said NEFF was dead???

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