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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    i never could figure out the "nymph rod" craze. What do you do if a good hatch come off? Do you carry two rods with you down to the stream? do you go back to the vehicle and get you dry fly rod? What if you do that and by the time you get back the hatch is over? lol. I saw a guy once carry three rods with him down to the river and it was a bit of a walk where we were fishing. Too much gear for me. I do have more than one rod for different types of water. A 9ft 5wt is a pain in the neck to use on some little brushy brookie stream, but a 6ft 3wt wont cut it on the Delaware.

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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by mudbug201 View Post
    Price does not equal performance. Never has, never will.

    A bunch of reasons for this, but the most fundamental is that there's a feedback loop between price and demand at the high end that changes the elasticity of the demand curve. In plain English, those consumers in a position to spend $800 - $1200 on a fly rod have a bunch of disposable income - an extra few hundred bucks doesn't matter much to them.

    And as with all luxury items, the high price actually becomes a selling point, which changes the price - demand relationship. People who want a top-of-the-line fly rod actually take the price as a signal of quality and exclusivity and are willing to pay more, perversely, simply because the fly rod costs more.

    Behavioral economists have shown this over and over. A bottle of wine priced at $100 tastes better than the one priced at $10, even if it's the same wine, under a different label. The price alters the experience of consuming the thing. Same deal with fly rods. A $1000 rod is not 10x more effective at catching fish than a $100 rod. A rich d-bag casting said premium rod does not catch 10x as many fish as a blue collar angler with the same innate ability, using a P.O.S. from Cabela's.

    To look good is not to fish good.

    But it might make you feel good while fishing, so who's to say you shouldn't waste that $1000 on something that is a pointless leisure activity to begin with. And, having borrowed my cousin's NRX LP a few times last spring, I'm with Mac - holy shit that rod casts like a dream. I'm not sure it casts 3x as well as the Orvis entry level thing that I usually fish with, and I know I wouldn't catch 3x as many fish with it, but it feels like I would, and at some point that's what you're paying for.

    Blasphemy!! you sir will never know the pleasure of fishing while being wrapped in a high quality tweed jacket.

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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    Blasphemy!! you sir will never know the pleasure of fishing while being wrapped in a high quality tweed jacket.
    God I hope this is a CMM reference.


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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by lightenup View Post
    I think if you "need" more than one rod, for example a nymph rod and a dry fly rod you are overspending...I only bought a second rod, for a back-up, in case my Winston broke(which did happen once) and to cast on heavy wind in Montana, I don't use it for that because I hate it....you are overspending...get one nice rod that fits your needs for trout, and a cheap back-up in case it breaks....I nymph just fine with the 8' 5" IM6, sure, sometime another for or two would be nice, but I can't justify the expense for another form of fishing....hell I don't even switch leaders or change my set-up for nymphing and dry fly fishing, just change the tippet and there ya go...I catch plenty of fish to keep me happy!!!!


    Like my signature quote says.....I'm not on the river to win.....just my thoughts, yours are probably different, and that is why you are a boob!!!!
    This from a guy who uses silk fly line made in Italy?

    I often take a streamer rod and a dry fly rod on my boat. The difference between them is that one has a streamer tied on, the other has a dry fly. Slight difference in leader length. Never needed any more than that. Often have needed less.


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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    i never could figure out the "nymph rod" craze. What do you do if a good hatch come off? Do you carry two rods with you down to the stream? do you go back to the vehicle and get you dry fly rod? What if you do that and by the time you get back the hatch is over? lol. I saw a guy once carry three rods with him down to the river and it was a bit of a walk where we were fishing. Too much gear for me. I do have more than one rod for different types of water. A 9ft 5wt is a pain in the neck to use on some little brushy brookie stream, but a 6ft 3wt wont cut it on the Delaware.
    Actually my nymph rod (10' 3wt Streamflex) throws a pretty good dry fly. It is a much slower action and will not throw laser casts, but works out very nicely for delicate presentations. I have used it on many occasions when a small olive hatch appears and the soft tip all but eliminates the chance of breaking off any flies.


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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    I was up on the West Branch a few weeks ago and had one rod rigged up for nymphing in the morning and the other set up for the afternoon sulphur hatch. This was the first time I tried this and it worked well for those conditions. I wouldn't, however, be running back to the car for another rod should an early hatch come off.


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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by mudbug201 View Post
    This from a guy who uses silk fly line made in Italy?

    I often take a streamer rod and a dry fly rod on my boat. The difference between them is that one has a streamer tied on, the other has a dry fly. Slight difference in leader length. Never needed any more than that. Often have needed less.
    We are not discussing fly lines on this thread.....it's about rods you boob....I only have one fly line on each rod also......I don't see the need for any extra lines either..

    Although you make a good point about boat fishing as an extra rod or two rigged with nymphs, dries and streamers makes sense, as you can float right past opportunities...it pays to be ready.....agreed...good thing I don't have a boat, or I'd be buying rods all the time..

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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Only wankers fish plastic rods. Real purists fish bamboo and silk lines.

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    Re: Newest Fly Rods getting more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    When I bought my first high end fly rod, a Sage RPL+, it went for $450 and I questioned why I was paying so damned much $$ for a fly rod. As MAC reminds us, that rod today would be the Sage X for $865. It's all relative. Your homes cost more today than ever, cars are the same, food, etc. If customers stop buying, then the prices will fall. If not and they keep buying, expect prices to keep climbing. It's that easy.

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