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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
    Uh-oh...
    Seems the Iranians might be able to help you out...
    Has FUDR looked into the possibility of reaching out to the Iranians to help out with releases?

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/iranian-...013-1450662559
    When you stop to think about it, that is terrifying and not at all surprising. Think of the impacts with just one big dam blown up by these maniacs. It is obviously on the minds of these terrorists.

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    When you stop to think about it, that is terrifying and not at all surprising. Think of the impacts with just one big dam blown up by these maniacs. It is obviously on the minds of these terrorists.
    That would big a big task to keep secret. It would take a lot of explosives, planning and engineering skills to take down a large dam. Lets hope that they are not sophisticated enough to accomplished that. If they could, we would have big problems to address.

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Quote Originally Posted by tomfly View Post
    That would big a big task to keep secret. It would take a lot of explosives, planning and engineering skills to take down a large dam. Lets hope that they are not sophisticated enough to accomplished that. If they could, we would have big problems to address.
    Agreed which is why we're seeing soft targets get attacked which are far easier to pull off it you are a radical. But who knows what types of bombs they can make these days and what ways they have of delivering them like small airplanes.

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    Agreed which is why we're seeing soft targets get attacked which are far easier to pull off it you are a radical. But who knows what types of bombs they can make these days and what ways they have of delivering them like small airplanes.
    I agree with the soft targets. This is why I am a proponent of easing the restrictions of concealed carry. I look at this way. 99% of the soft target attacks are going to be carried out with hand held weapons. Bombings are a small %. The Suicide bomber is even less likely as you suggest a small plane would be more difficult. The explosives for a small plane would have to be light weight. Military grade explosives, I would believe to be unattainable in this country. (if they were they would be using them) If they were able to get them, they would be very expensive. Even the drug cartels would have a problem with giving Islamic terrorist access to them. The explosives would be traced back to the seller. The cartels may be brutal but they understand not to piss off their customers. The best way to curtail the attacks on soft targets is to have an armed civilian population.

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Speaking of reservoirs, in New Jersey, why do they drain Spruce Run every winter? There must be a logical reason because every winter they drain it by a whole lot......just wondering, nothing to do with trout fishing or flows because trout don't do well in the summer down stream of the reservoir there anyway.....and the outflow isn't cold....

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Drain is maybe not the right word for Spruce Run Res. It is a water supply reservoir that gets low over the course of the year until the spring rains replenish it (hopefully). It is part of the same water supply system as Round Valley. However, Spruce Run fills naturally from the tributaries while the water in Round Valley is pumped up from the South Branch, which costs big bucks. Therefore, the NJ Water Supply Authority uses up the Spruce Run water before they start to draw water from Round Valley. For probably the first 40 years of Round Valley it never really was drawn down much. But the drought in the early 2000's caused the Round Valley level to drop quite a bit as well.


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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffK View Post
    Drain is maybe not the right word for Spruce Run Res. It is a water supply reservoir that gets low over the course of the year until the spring rains replenish it (hopefully). It is part of the same water supply system as Round Valley. However, Spruce Run fills naturally from the tributaries while the water in Round Valley is pumped up from the South Branch, which costs big bucks. Therefore, the NJ Water Supply Authority uses up the Spruce Run water before they start to draw water from Round Valley. For probably the first 40 years of Round Valley it never really was drawn down much. But the drought in the early 2000's caused the Round Valley level to drop quite a bit as well.
    Some of it goes downstream, because the level of the SBR down from the spillway was a bit higher than the rest of the river, as per comments heard at Shannon's from silly fishermen who thought the SBR was high (during the drought) but they were fishing downstream from Clinton by Fox's lumber...I wouldn't drink that "water"

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

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    I agree with the soft targets. This is why I am a proponent of easing the restrictions of concealed carry in states run by liberal loonies.
    I fixed it for you.

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Currently 3% over normal...

    But you can still nearly see the ground up here...

    Anybody want to guess about spillage?

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

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    Currently 3% over normal...

    But you can still nearly see the ground up here...

    Anybody want to guess about spillage?

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    Cannonsville will spill - so will Pepacton.

    Eventhough the Jonas missed the Catskills and watershed (see snowcover map -- Sullivan and Delaware Counties received less than an inch) we have 85%+ currently at Cannonsville and 2 to 3 inches of rain between now and April (three months) would bring it up to 100%+ (see NYC DEP map) even without snowpack.

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

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    Cannonsville will spill - so will Pepacton.


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    Hi,

    Reservoirs will spill before April 1!!!

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    Look at THAT!
    You and Jim DO AGREE about something...

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    Re: 2016 Spring reservoir levels

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
    Look at THAT!
    You and Jim DO AGREE about something...
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    Yep. It's amazing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wo...piracy_theory)

    By the way, even with NYC dumping 1,500cfs from Cannonsville from early July to early August 2015, they're still ahead of the game with regards to total capacity levels.

    Last winter, Cannonsville was at 55% in early April. We're at 85% right now.

    Rush and Murphy of DEP still want their reservoirs at 100% by June 1st - so you'll get spill this spring.

    It's called a "topwater" fishery.

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