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    WHY Bears?

    I know this isn't the place to ask, but I keep getting banned from the appropriate Facebook pages....

    There was a recent "problem bear" incident in Oakland....
    No one was hurt but several different hikers were reporting being followed by an bear in Ramapo State Forrest, in one case aggressively. A child got some scratches from brush, trying to escape.

    The DFW set a trap, caught, and destroyed a bear. NJDEP - News Release 15/P086 - Ramapo Mountain State Forest Remains Closed Following Reports of Black Bear Encounters
    Turned out that this particular bear had been so unafraid of people, and spent so much time around local homes, that she had a name.

    I'm amazed at the response, and at how many of my otherwise sensible neighbors, turned out to be BEAR people.

    There's going to be a memorial service.
    The head of the Ramapough Conservatory is trying to plan some sort of "education" rally, and is trying to get Susan Kehoe and the Mayor together.
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...69348366482237

    Why are the animal rights people focusing on Bears, an apex predator?

    Deer and rabbits are cuter. They certainly taste better than coyotes, (and don't look like your dog). They can be dangerous, and are constantly disrupting school openings and dismissals.

    What is it about bears that gets these people so much more upset than (for instance) deer
    season?

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    Re: WHY Bears?

    They're idiots, not much more to it than that. We have bears here in Millburn every year and you always get the idiots who try to protect them even though they are running through the backyards of suburbia.


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    Re: WHY Bears?

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    They're idiots, not much more to it than that. We have bears here in Millburn every year and you always get the idiots who try to protect them even though they are running through the backyards of suburbia.
    I know, but why not something cuter. Deer season comes and goes every year, without demonstrations. Bambi & Thumper won't eat your children.

    Why do they focus on bears?


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    Re: WHY Bears?

    its because they are guided by emotion, not intelligent thinking, and their emotions are based on unreality. Secondly, people want to be part of the majority not minority, so which ever way the wind blows, if backed by what they feel is the majority, they go with.

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    Re: WHY Bears?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I know this isn't the place to ask, but I keep getting banned from the appropriate Facebook pages....

    There was a recent "problem bear" incident in Oakland....
    No one was hurt but several different hikers were reporting being followed by an bear in Ramapo State Forrest, in one case aggressively. A child got some scratches from brush, trying to escape.

    The DFW set a trap, caught, and destroyed a bear. NJDEP - News Release 15/P086 - Ramapo Mountain State Forest Remains Closed Following Reports of Black Bear Encounters
    Turned out that this particular bear had been so unafraid of people, and spent so much time around local homes, that she had a name.

    I'm amazed at the response, and at how many of my otherwise sensible neighbors, turned out to be BEAR people.

    There's going to be a memorial service.
    The head of the Ramapough Conservatory is trying to plan some sort of "education" rally, and is trying to get Susan Kehoe and the Mayor together.
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...69348366482237

    Why are the animal rights people focusing on Bears, an apex predator?

    Deer and rabbits are cuter. They certainly taste better than coyotes, (and don't look like your dog). They can be dangerous, and are constantly disrupting school openings and dismissals.

    What is it about bears that gets these people so much more upset than (for instance) deer
    season?
    I have a problem with the friends of Clara creating the bear problem. If they want to blame someone for the resulting demise of that bear, they have no farther to look than themselves. I'm sure the non-bearlike behavior was caused by the "bear lovers" in that area. Bears should run at the sight, sound or smell of a human. Instead this bear would come closer when it saw a human, probably because it was being given handouts like it was somebodies pet.
    Bear sees humans in the woods, so what does it do? It comes closer because it thinks it will eventually get some free food. It was only a matter of time before the human/bear interaction resulted in some sort of injury to the human and the result would be the same as it is today. One dead bear and a bunch of anthropomorphic idiots running around have prayer meetings for a dead bear.
    So I say good riddance.

    So now let's talk about the real reasons you are being banned from Facebook.........


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    Re: WHY Bears?

    Quote Originally Posted by FIN-ITE 34 View Post
    I have a problem with the friends of Clara creating the bear problem. If they want to blame someone for the resulting demise of that bear, they have no farther to look than themselves. I'm sure the non-bearlike behavior was caused by the "bear lovers" in that area. Bears should run at the sight, sound or smell of a human. Instead this bear would come closer when it saw a human, probably because it was being given handouts like it was somebodies pet.
    Bear sees humans in the woods, so what does it do? It comes closer because it thinks it will eventually get some free food. It was only a matter of time before the human/bear interaction resulted in some sort of injury to the human and the result would be the same as it is today. One dead bear and a bunch of anthropomorphic idiots running around have prayer meetings for a dead bear.
    So I say good riddance.

    So now let's talk about the real reasons you are being banned from Facebook.........
    I tend to agree, most likely some of the locals condemned the bear themselves.
    BUT
    They probably also feed the deer & squirrels.
    Yet, I hear nothing during deer or small game season.

    Why Bears?
    Don't we have any liberals here with friends like that?

    OT: I was banned because of age discrimination......
    I was raised in an era when there was a military draft, and it was a kid's patriotic duty to learn how to shoot. While I was serving, the hippies managed to make cowardice socially acceptable, and then Nixon made it legal when he stopped the draft.


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    Re: WHY Bears?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Why Bears?
    Because bears have more human traits than deer or squirrels. Hence the "bear people", appropriate don't you think, associate more with bears. If you think back before the bear boom, deer were tops for the love and affection of these folks.


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    OT: I was banned because of age discrimination......
    I heard it was because you were posting nude selfies.


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    Re: WHY Bears?

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    Re: WHY Bears?

    deer eat expensive shrubbery and are considered a pest by many. they also carry ticks and are way overpopulated in many areas. that's why it's ok to kill the big rats.


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    Re: WHY Bears?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I know, but why not something cuter. Deer season comes and goes every year, without demonstrations. Bambi & Thumper won't eat your children.

    Why do they focus on bears?
    Because they used to focus on deer (remember the Great Swamp deer hunt debates, protests, etc. in the 70s?) and some still do, but they lost that battle which is ostensibly about ultimately banning all hunting, trapping and fishing and now they have turned their focus on bears. Or at least they have for the last about 12 years since the issue first popped up during the McGreevy administration. They assign human emotions to bears, give them names, and call them (no lie) "dolphins of the forest". Well, it turns out that the forest dolphins have acquired a taste for humans (re: Darsh Patel's killing and partially being eaten by a black bear in West Milford the other year). Category 1 complaints are back up and the lateness of our current 6 Day gun season means most bears are denned up and not available to hunters to kill to reduce the overall population nearly enough.

    What happened, Pete, is that the Division has added a fall 6 day archery season beginning in '16 in which the last 3 days are also open to muzzleloaders. That will be on top of the existing December 6 Day season in an effort to reduce their numbers further. That is why the beartards are getting their panties in a bunch right now. These people are not well and their logic is severely flawed. But that never stops some people from pushing their personal agendas.

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    Re: WHY Bears?

    It's because they are all cidiots and have never been around bears in the wild. Limp wristed liberal sissies.

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