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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by golden beetle View Post
    Water is not privately owned by the City of New York.

    It is a public resource, and it is allocated democratically.

    Markets can be used to facilitate efficient allocation, not to impede it, as you are suggesting.
    So what you're sayin' is you don't want to pay the people of NYC for their water, but you want them to pay for a desalination plant that they don't need, so you can fish...
    Got it.

    Start a petition for that one...

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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
    So what you're sayin' is you don't want to pay the people of NYC for their water, but you want them to pay for a desalination plant that they don't need, so you can fish...
    Got it.

    Start a petition for that one...
    Slow down.

    I am saying that water is a public resource, and the allocation of that resource is the job of government.

    If you say that its NYC's water, ok, but can you acknowledge.that it is their water in accordance with a court decision as to how to allocate the resource?

    You know they didn't pay for that allocation on the free market, right?


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    Re: Sign the petition

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    Re: Sign the petition

    Gb what do you see the future of the Upper Delaware system is after NYC builds the D-sal plant and no longer needs the water reserves from the Delaware and its tributaries? Are you going to start petition to take down the dams? You have stated that humans have an impact on the environment. Those dams do impact the environment, but I kind of like the aquarium the way it is.

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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by tomfly View Post
    Gb what do you see the future of the Upper Delaware system is after NYC builds the D-sal plant and no longer needs the water reserves from the Delaware and its tributaries? Are you going to start petition to take down the dams? You have stated that humans have an impact on the environment. Those dams do impact the environment, but I kind of like the aquarium the way it is.

    Tomfly don't ask him to think that far ahead. He is still dressed in his Jammie's and its 4 o'clock already

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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by tomfly View Post
    Gb what do you see the future of the Upper Delaware system is after NYC builds the D-sal plant and no longer needs the water reserves from the Delaware and its tributaries? Are you going to start petition to take down the dams? You have stated that humans have an impact on the environment. Those dams do impact the environment, but I kind of like the aquarium the way it is.
    New York will eventually go the desal route. The nanotechnology and cost efficiency makes it a matter of time.

    I will guess that NYC has a modern desal plant by 2035.

    Now lets say going back to the days of totally natural flows and brook trout were possible, say by 2100?

    Would I support it?

    I expect to be dead.


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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by MACFLY View Post
    Tomfly don't ask him to think that far ahead. He is still dressed in his Jammie's and its 4 o'clock already
    Your best post in quite a while.

    bravo!


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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by golden beetle View Post
    Your best post in quite a while.

    bravo!
    I have my moments

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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by golden beetle View Post
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    Re: Sign the petition

    Quote Originally Posted by golden beetle View Post
    New York will eventually go the desal route. The nanotechnology and cost efficiency makes it a matter of time.

    I will guess that NYC has a modern desal plant by 2035.

    Now lets say going back to the days of totally natural flows and brook trout were possible, say by 2100?

    Would I support it?

    I expect to be dead.
    Yes but the UV will be so strong by 2035 that is will kill the micro invertabrates anyway. So we wont need the damn dam

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    Re: Sign the petition

    Good News! NYC has caved due to the pressure put on it by Beetles petition. They will start to release water, bad news is, thats it will be water from the top of the reservoir

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