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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    I think you need either stiff or supple depending on what you want to do. However i dont buy into the invisibility hype that the fish are that smart. Were talking about the same fish that hit the tippet ring and orange Thigamabobber right?

    To look good is to fish good

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    I read an article a while back written by one of those guys that likes to scuba dive in a trout stream, and he said that in the water fluoro and mono looked exactly the same, at least to human eyes.

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Have ever seen a big fish raising and you could not get it to take your presentation, fish are smarter than you think.

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    I switched to super strong also and haven't seen any change in hookup's


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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    I think you need either stiff or supple depending on what you want to do. However i dont buy into the invisibility hype that the fish are that smart. Were talking about the same fish that hit the tippet ring and orange Thigamabobber right?
    I have often thought...if only I had put a hook on that damn thing....

    fish are smarter than you think.
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    No they aren't......fish are not "smart".....Einstein was smart...fish are reactionary, stupid, conditioned, small brained, evolutionary works of art.......that is why we love them!!!!!!


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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Quote Originally Posted by lightenup View Post

    Kendall


    No they aren't......NEFF Members are not "smart".....Einstein was smart...fish are reactionary, stupid, conditioned, small brained, evolutionary works of art.......that is why we love them!!!!!!
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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    I think you need either stiff or supple depending on what you want to do. However i dont buy into the invisibility hype that the fish are that smart. Were talking about the same fish that hit the tippet ring and orange Thigamabobber right?
    Dluver get you facts straight before you comment. It was a yellow Thingamabobber.

    "Hatchery fish have the same colors, but they always seem muted like bad reproductions of great art." Bill Barich

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Quote Originally Posted by mudbug201 View Post
    Stealth has given way to strength for me as the main consideration in recent years. In some conditions (glassy slow pools where it's near impossible to catch wild trout anyway), fluoro might be better I suppose. Although a more flexible tippet might give you more micro-drag, which is one of the biggest problems I have in these conditions.

    But in all the other kinds of water I fish (stained, broken, fast), the possibility of not catching fish is way more tolerable than the big fish breaking off, which happens to me way too often.

    I've just gotten tired of it - makes me feel like shit also for leaving a fly in a fish's mouth, and even if I bring the trout to hand, a stronger tippet allows for a quicker fight that gets the fish back in the water quicker.

    So, I've been fishing Orvis super strong, which is a nylon tippet, and have been stretching Trico Mike's rule of thumb, trying to stay away from 6x-8x tippet in favor of 5x or 4.5x for dries and nymphs.
    I agree stealth in those slow crystal clear pools is a must to achieve any success. I Get down to 8X some times with 28 midges. I do it for the challenge that it presents not that I need to. I know from experience and observation that you do not have to forgo strength in a tippet to obtain stealth. The main problem with fishing dries in the slower moving pools is the effect of the tippets surface tension silhouette. I do not believe that any fish can see the tippet but if the tippet is floating with the fly the fish can see that disturbance in the surface tension that the tippet makes. I do a few things to try to circumvent this issue. Tippet material is very smooth and because of that it holds surface tension. I will always when I dry fly fish is; pull the tippet through my Leader Straightener.It will remove that smooth surface off of the tippet allowing it to brake the surface tension and sink into the water. If I am down to 7x or 8x I will put o bit of mud on my thumb and index finger and pull the tippet through the mud it does the same thing as the Leader Straightener, Another thing that I do is I tie my dries on from the bottom of the eye. This allows as little as possible tippet to be in the surface tension. I hope this helps.

    "Hatchery fish have the same colors, but they always seem muted like bad reproductions of great art." Bill Barich

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    I guess that why we spend so much and time trying to out smart them. Ha Ha Ha

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    its not that they are so bright as much as we over think things and don't do our part right. Put a worm on a hook present it at the correct depth and speed and they will take it every time. After thousands of years they still have not "learned" not to eat worms.

    But what ever floats your boat. Im just one of those guys that does not believe in the "educated fish theory" one reads so much about in magazines.

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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Maybe that's because you can only catch the uneducated (small) ones
    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    its not that they are so bright as much as we over think things and don't do our part right. Put a worm on a hook present it at the correct depth and speed and they will take it every time. After thousands of years they still have not "learned" not to eat worms.

    But what ever floats your boat. Im just one of those guys that does not believe in the "educated fish theory" one reads so much about in magazines.


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    Re: Fluorocarbon tippet...what are you using these days

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    its not that they are so bright as much as we over think things and don't do our part right. Put a worm on a hook present it at the correct depth and speed and they will take it every time. After thousands of years they still have not "learned" not to eat worms.

    But what ever floats your boat. Im just one of those guys that does not believe in the "educated fish theory" one reads so much about in magazines.

    The Master has spoken. All fish are deemed to be stupid. This decree will begin henceforth. All heretics that do not comply will be punished accordingly. So it be told so it be done.

    "Hatchery fish have the same colors, but they always seem muted like bad reproductions of great art." Bill Barich

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