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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Yeah let's discuss this clinton economy. One that benefitted from a once in eon market transformation namely the rise of the Internet. Now other then Al Gore claiming he invented it please tell me exactly what economic policy clinton put in place to ignite said market transformation. Let me tell you exactly what he did. Not a dam thing other the play it smart politically and move to the center on. Variety of issues like welfare, deregulation, free trade. He also benefitted from a recovering economy as we well as the peace dividend post gulf war one. Massive troop draw down in 1994 and 1995 cause russia was gone and the recession was over. Silicon Valley kicked into high gear and none of that can or should be credited to president clinton.

    Quote Originally Posted by FIN-ITE 34 View Post
    Again, I believe that history will show that the Clinton administration was good for you and me when you put aside the infidelity and look at it from a strictly economic standpoint.
    The Clinton economy, in charts - The Washington Post


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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Clinton lied about a blowjob.

    And was impeached.


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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by FIN-ITE 34 View Post
    Again, I believe that history will show that the Clinton administration was good for you and me when you put aside the infidelity and look at it from a strictly economic standpoint.
    The Clinton economy, in charts - The Washington Post
    Are you referring to the signing of NAFTA? It was and is very good for big business that pays a fraction to get the product to market but still charge the same price as before.

    Another NAFTA statistic. Hewlett-Packard Rockaway NJ facility had 900 employees prior to NAFTA, Today, 0. and another empty building with the sign "office space for laese"

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Nazi View Post
    if I was busted getting blown at work, I would be fired, right there. Walked out to the car. Now, I enjoy a good blow job as much as the next guy, but I can't get one at work, more or less a universal rule. Wife would probably divorce me too. Unless you work at the White House, this is par for the course at most places of employment. As much as I would welcome a blow job at work, those rules ain't been changed yet. Pretty sure you would be walked out of PS125 also, or wherever it is you work.
    Whats sick about this is that you work at a boys camp. shame on you

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by lightenup View Post
    Hell, Kennedy banged Marilyn Monroe, among others and.......
    yeah but kennedy was a commie bastard...have you learned nothing from this website??

    Forreal though my friends grandma will VEHEMENTLY declare that she slept with Kennedy. I believe her. She also claimed to have dated Macfly back in the 40s.

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by moosekid View Post
    yeah but kennedy was a commie bastard...have you learned nothing from this website??

    Forreal though my friends grandma will VEHEMENTLY declare that she slept with Kennedy. I believe her. She also claimed to have dated Macfly back in the 40s.
    She was a lousy lay

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Obama’s greatest accomplishment or failure has not been determined as of yet.


    If you take a look at the events that took place from 1997 until present day, it becomes oblivious why the world is the way that it is. If you see it, Obama is not the great liberator of the oppressed as it appears and very good at managing The United States influences in the world.

    If you look at the major world events over the past few decades It is clear what is going on. I only look at the major world events each year from 97, there are many smaller events that support this. The US in a round about way is the beneficiary of the global jihad. It sounds crazy, if you look at each event as an isolated incident. Look at them as a whole. Russia is losing a lot of influence in the world. Why is it, that the Arab spring only touched countries that had diplomatic ties with Russia? The US should not care if theses courtiers become a chaotic hell. It is in the United States best interest that they are, and Obama is aware of this, The US has stability in the region with The Saudis ,The UAE, Jordan, Kuwait, Israel. We can move hardware to these countries when and if needed. The countries that Russia could have used to do the same are now in a state of flux excluding Iran. But the leadership of Iran does not want infidels on their soil whether it is Russian troops or anyone else.

    The US racks up debt with China and America is allowing Chinese goods to flow in to its store shelves. Between that and the Formation of the Japanese S Korea war pact (2012). Also the fact 7 of the top 10 military powers on the planet are allied with the US. All of this will influence China on what side it should take if it chooses to do so.

    Putin sees all of this as a real threat. And he is scared at what he sees. He seized control of a much need navel base in Crimea. He is also testing NATO in the Ukraine. But NATO has a bigger problem, Germany. Why is this? Germany receives its energy from Russian pipe lines and Russia has shut them off twice. This is probably why the NSA was spying on Germany last year. They want to know with who Germany actually stands. I have played a lot of Risk when I was younger. If I were looking at the world as a Risk board today, I would say it is in an advanced state of the game. With Belarus penning an agreement with Russia in January of this year, it gives Putin a direct line of site to the NATO Baltic states. If Putin decides to test NATO’s article 5 resolve in the Baltic. And Obama can keep the Alliance intact fully. Putin will back down. Obama is a hero and history will write him as great leader. If it falters, that would be a bad thing for the entire planet. Anything that is written about Obama that is good will be over showed by his failure.

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    Are you referring to the signing of NAFTA? It was and is very good for big business that pays a fraction to get the product to market but still charge the same price as before.

    Another NAFTA statistic. Hewlett-Packard Rockaway NJ facility had 900 employees prior to NAFTA, Today, 0. and another empty building with the sign "office space for laese"
    You can thank NAFTA for all the cheap, plastic, Chinese shit that's flooded our country.

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    Whats sick about this is that you work at a boys camp. shame on you
    You got me. My real name is Pete Townsend, and I'm just doing "research" for my book.

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    Are you referring to the signing of NAFTA? It was and is very good for big business that pays a fraction to get the product to market but still charge the same price as before.

    Another NAFTA statistic. Hewlett-Packard Rockaway NJ facility had 900 employees prior to NAFTA, Today, 0. and another empty building with the sign "office space for laese"
    Not following. I thought NAFTA was initiated by H.W.?


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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Why are the liberals trying to steer this thread to Clinton? Stick with Obama and defend your King. Please enlighten the rest of us as to why this guy is so damned great......

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    Re: Does Obama deserve credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by FIN-ITE 34 View Post
    Not following. I thought NAFTA was initiated by H.W.?
    Signed by president Clinton signed it in 1993. Really irrelevant since it was embraced by both democrats and republicans.

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