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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver10 View Post
    You make a lot of good points.

    I went to college in Easton Pa. I drank with my friends. We went hiking pretty often for college kids. Jacobsburg and at a stretch we would go to Merrill Creek and do the big loop. 9 times out of ten there was at least one female with us. The places we chose to hike were close to home.

    The fact that 5 college age guys decided to drive a long way without ladies to go for a hike when there are plenty of other places closer is what really made me think something was off. People have been inappropriately making fun of the victims culture. I don't know much about other cultures maybe this sort of behavior in normal for college kids from that background these days.

    Maybe there is a good reason why they chose to hike there. Maybe there was booze involved? Maybe it was a pre mediated murder? I just feel in my gut that something else was going on other than 5 young men went for a walk in the woods and one got eaten.
    There is nowhere to hike near Edison. Round Valley or Chimney rock do not count. I know everyone on the interwebs would love to find out that they were somehow taunting or antagonizing the bear so that they can justify making fun of the dude, but that may not be the case here. It may be a simple matter of the bear realizing that 130lb kid is easy food.

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Guy View Post
    Anybody hiking should carry a bear deterrent spray. Especially where high populations are known..

    I always carry my bear deterrent, in .40cal that is..
    And of course what Trout Guy meant was, "carry at your own risk" because both are illegal. Pepper spray in a tiny container is legal, but not in the amounts they recommend to thwart a bear attack.

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Guy View Post
    Anybody hiking should carry a bear deterrent spray. Especially where high populations are known..

    I always carry my bear deterrent, in .40cal that is..
    You need to increase the size of your deterant by.05, then you'll have the big boy version.

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Well it looks like the authorities are having a hard time with part of the 4 surviving men's stories.

    Bear attack: Police seek 2 hikers who saw Rutgers students before deadly encounter | NJ.com


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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver10 View Post
    Well it looks like the authorities are having a hard time with part of the 4 surviving men's stories.

    Bear attack: Police seek 2 hikers who saw Rutgers students before deadly encounter | NJ.com
    Exactly where in that article does it say that the authorities are having a hard time with part of their stories? Am I missing something here?

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Nazi View Post
    Exactly where in that article does it say that the authorities are having a hard time with part of their stories? Am I missing something here?
    I am speculating here. If the story is so clear cut. 5 guys go hiking and get chased by a bear. One dies and they find the body with a bear eating it why do you need to look for more witnesses? Why do you need to make a public plea for people in the preserve to come forward?

    The quote from the article is 3/4th down.

    "Ricciardi said it’s possible the other hikers can shed light on why the incident happened."


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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver10 View Post
    I am speculating here. If the story is so clear cut. 5 guys go hiking and get chased by a bear. One dies and they find the body with a bear eating it why do you need to look for more witnesses? Why do you need to make a public plea for people in the preserve to come forward?

    The quote from the article is 3/4th down.

    "Ricciardi said it’s possible the other hikers can shed light on why the incident happened."
    Or it could be that when someone is killed, and its relatively high-profile like this, the police will do absolutely everything possible to rule out any other cause of death or extraneous factors, so that they don't get embarrassed if something comes out in the future. They may also want to know why a rare incident like this occurred. Pretty sure that Kelcey Burgess (who is an awesome dude btw, I helped him tranq, tag, and take samples from a bear once) would like to know what factors in behavior or environment lead up to this.

    Roll up the windows Brian, you're letting the stank out.

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Nazi View Post
    You need to increase the size of your deterant by.05, then you'll have the big boy version.
    Yea some day I will get my hands on something in .45acp.. I have tons of brass laying around for that

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Nazi View Post
    Or it could be that when someone is killed, and its relatively high-profile like this, the police will do absolutely everything possible to rule out any other cause of death or extraneous factors, so that they don't get embarrassed if something comes out in the future. They may also want to know why a rare incident like this occurred. Pretty sure that Kelcey Burgess (who is an awesome dude btw, I helped him tranq, tag, and take samples from a bear once) would like to know what factors in behavior or environment lead up to this.
    Agreed! I am curious to see what the necropsy brings...rabies or some other disease.


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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    The chances of getting struck by lightning are extremely small, yet a goodly number of people in the US are struck by lightning every year. With the number of human/bear encounters in NJ each year the question is not if there will be a death associated with these encounters, but when.
    You walk in the woods that has bears, there is not a great probability that you will even see a bear, but there is the possibility, remote as it may be, that you will be killed by a bear. It's a big wild animal that when encountered by a human without the human carrying a gun puts the bear at the top of the food chain.
    Here is a video you might want to watch.
    Black Bear Stalks Terrified Joggers! - YouTube


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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    The police have to do a full and complete investigation when any human is found dead. The local PD (I have close friends on that department that I grew up with) are just doing their job. There have been reports or rumors about this bear possibly following other hikers earlier in the day. They just want to gather all the facts before they can say the investigation is over.

    This is a normal procedure, not a conspiracy.

    And keep those pea-shooters at home and carry a .44 mag for God's sake!

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    Re: Black bear kills a man in NJ

    I'm curious to see who the family sues first.


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