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    Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    I'm not sure this will affect too many trout. It is MORE development in Sullivan County, though.
    They do seem to love more houses and casinos...

    I do expect to see "China Themed City-free Catskills in the header of this website...

    Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s CatskillsBy Cristina Corbin

    U.S. immigration officials are considering a proposal from Chinese investors to create a multibillion-dollar development in New York’s Catskills called "China City" -- raising concerns among critics about the potential cost to U.S. taxpayers and, according to one analyst, the possibility it could be a "stalking horse" for the Beijing government.

    A spokesman from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services told FoxNews.com that the proposal for Thompson, N.Y., has not been approved but is under consideration.

    The mysterious proposed development appears to be a step beyond the types of ethnic enclaves scattered throughout U.S. cities, like the Chinatown sections of New York City or San Francisco. The 600-acre "China City of America" is located far outside New York City in upstate New York's wetlands and is a meticulously planned project, calling for family housing, a college and student residences, among other structures. In addition to needing federal approval, it would likely need a host of state and local permits before ground could be broken.

    "It's a perfect storm of problems."

    - David North, Center for Immigration Studies

    If approved, every province in China would have an office there and foreign investors funding the development would receive green cards for their $500,000 checks under the EB-5 program designed to lure foreign investment, according to the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative organization staunchly opposed to the project.

    A detailed report authored by David North, a fellow with the Washington-based group, claimed there is "a charge from within the Chinese community that China City is a stalking horse for the Chinese communist government in Beijing." He claimed he was told one group raised objections with the USCIS.

    "It's a perfect storm of problems," North told FoxNews.com, citing what he called dubious job creation claims by the promoters as well as national security concerns. North noted that the developers claim 20 percent of the funding would come from U.S. taxpayers, which he said was a "pipe dream."

    A review by FoxNews.com of the the China City Regional Center's website could not confirm such a claim involving U.S. taxpayer money, though there is little English on the site, which is affiliated with a Florida law firm. No one at the law firm could be reached for comment.

    The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services said Wednesday it does not disclose details of pending applications.

    "The [China City] Regional Center is not approved. An application has been filed and it's still pending. A decision has not been made on it yet," Christopher Bentley, a spokesman for USCIS, told FoxNews.com.

    "With all cases of a request for an immigrations service or benefit, we rely on the information provided and the law to reach a decision on whether it can or cannot be approved," Bentley said.

    Local officials did not respond to requests for comment. But a videotape of a public meeting held in Thompson in May, available on YouTube, addressed the proposal and underscored the controversy surrounding the development. Supporters of the project, in an economically depressed area of Sullivan County, say they believe it would offer both a financial and cultural boon to the region.

    "Families who invest in EB-5 program are normally influential and wealthy families from China. A lot of them are successful business owners or enterprisers. Most of those investors are highly educated and skilled in different fields," wrote one poster.

    "I believe this is a big projects that can creates thousands of job opportunities," wrote another. "Such a precious opportunity to learn more about Chinese culture and beauty."

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    Vomit... I can't say anything more about this without sounding like a racist.


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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    It can't be worse than Fracking....

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    the vast resources of Fox news couldn't find a Chinese interpreter for such an important story. Google translate maybe? We should take all the Chinese money we can. I'm pretty sure we won't turn commie because of a Chinese themed development in Thompson.

    And go take it up on a damn real-estate discussion board already. Gone fishing lately?


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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    the vast resources of Fox news couldn't find a Chinese interpreter for such an important story. Google translate maybe? We should take all the Chinese money we can. I'm pretty sure we won't turn commie because of a Chinese themed development in Thompson.

    And go take it up on a damn real-estate discussion board already. Gone fishing lately?
    ?

    I think the outflow of the manmade "Yankee Lake"(the shores of which border this development, I believe) wind up in the Neversink. (Experts- correct me if I'm wrong).

    I wasn't too concerned about goin' commie or Fox news or translators or Chinese money... I thought there were some members who enjoyed fishing the Neversink who might be interested.

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    So maybe it might be somewhat fishing related but you're not sure. The outflow of a man-made lake is already a disaster. Thompson is about 17 miles from yankee lake and I don't see any blue line called neversink leaving Yankee Lake on Google maps. I await any correction on the fishing related facts.


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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post

    I'm not sure this will affect too many trout. It is MORE development in Sullivan County, though.
    They do seem to love more houses and casinos...

    I do expect to see "China Themed City-free Catskills in the header of this website...

    Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s CatskillsBy Cristina Corbin

    U.S. immigration officials are considering a proposal from Chinese investors to create a multibillion-dollar development in New York’s Catskills called "China City" -- raising concerns among critics about the potential cost to U.S. taxpayers and, according to one analyst, the possibility it could be a "stalking horse" for the Beijing government.

    A spokesman from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services told FoxNews.com that the proposal for Thompson, N.Y., has not been approved but is under consideration.

    [a lot of stiff snipped]

    "Families who invest in EB-5 program are normally influential and wealthy families from China. A lot of them are successful business owners or enterprisers. Most of those investors are highly educated and skilled in different fields," wrote one poster.

    "I believe this is a big projects that can creates thousands of job opportunities," wrote another. "Such a precious opportunity to learn more about Chinese culture and beauty."
    ----

    In Narrowsburg, always ahead of the curve, we already have two Chinese restaurants.

    And with a blindfold taste test, with the five dishes:

    1) Dim Sum 2) General Tso's Chicken 3) Roast Pork with Black Beans 4) Five Dragon Delight and 5) Buddah's Savory Lotus were compared to Shun Lee on East 55th and Lucky Lucky All You Can Eat Buffet in Parsippany on Route 46 East- the participants voted Narrowsburg's Chinatown Kitchen a winner.

    Please file:

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    You're kidding, right?
    If not,

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    So maybe it might be somewhat fishing related but you're not sure.
    NO. I'm sure it's fishing related. AS I SAID, "I'm not sure this will affect too many trout".

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    The outflow of a man-made lake is already a disaster.
    Yeah, look at Pepacton and the East Branch and Cannonsville and the West Branch and... (but sure, those being exceptions to the rule...)

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    Thompson is about 17 miles from yankee lake and I don't see any blue line called neversink leaving Yankee Lake on Google maps.
    So because you don't see a blue line labeled Neversink...

    The map I'M looking at shows Pine Kill leaving Yankee Lake to Basher Kill to The Neversink...

    I'd bet that some of the 600 or so acres is in the TOWN of Thompson. (TOWNS can cover a lot of land up here(as opposed to hamlets, villages or cities.)

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    I await any correction on the fishing related facts.
    I'm no expert on the area, but...

    Jeez, I'm just trying to keep folks informed...I think your zeal to make me look bad is best suited to some of my OTHER posts.

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
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    [SIZE=4]In Narrowsburg, always ahead of the curve, we already have two Chinese restaurants.

    And with a blindfold taste test, with the five dishes:

    1) Dim Sum 2) General Tso's Chicken 3) Roast Pork with Black Beans 4) Five Dragon Delight and 5) Buddah's Savory Lotus were compared to Shun Lee on East 55th and Lucky Lucky All You Can Eat Buffet in Parsippany on Route 46 East- the participants voted Narrowsburg's Chinatown Kitchen a winner.
    No disrespect meant, (really) but I'm surprised at the flippancy.
    Are you saying that this isn't a big deal? I mean that would explain it.

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Fanatic View Post
    ?

    I think the outflow of the manmade "Yankee Lake"(the shores of which border this development, I believe) wind up in the Neversink. (Experts- correct me if I'm wrong).

    I wasn't too concerned about goin' commie or Fox news or translators or Chinese money... I thought there were some members who enjoyed fishing the Neversink who might be interested.
    Yes, the outflow of Yankee lake flows into the Bashakill, then the Bashakill empties into the neversink near cuddebackville. I live near by so I fish that area pretty frequently.

    It would really suck if there is any impact on that area if this commie shit does happen. There's lots of wild and stocked trout that are at stake..

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    FF why does tompg hate you so much

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    Re: Mysterious China-themed 'city' proposed in New York’s Catskills

    I dont want to get into this; but I hope all of you know I'll be the first person there in full fly fishing regalia chained to the bull dozers and I am not joking.

    They will not do this to that area while I still breathe

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