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    newbie in the market for a new rod

    Hello,

    I was recently introduced to fly fishing by my girlfriend who grew up fishing Colorado with her father.. I was born in the salt but after my first trip to Roscoe I fell in love the new challenge.

    Her birthday is coming up and she has never owned her own fly rod and I'm hoping to change that. I recently purchased a tfo bvk with a Ross reel and we've been sharing it on the river.

    I was looking for a 4wt for her but I'm new to this market and I was hoping for some help. I was researching the sage TCX but I think it may be a little too unforgiving.

    I'm hoping to keep the rod and reel under $600 total. I've been looking at a few websites which have closeouts, which I'm unaware if I can mention or not and saw some nice sage reels 25%-30% off but no rods that fit the bill.

    any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    I would like to meet your girlfriend.......

    I'll sell you a G. Loomis pro 4X 5 wt....$250.00...you pick it up.....It is a fast rod, that is made for long casts, and fishing in the wind....If you have to use light tippets, don't bother, they will break on the hook set...the rod is not a good tool for fishing, but is awesome if you want to make hero casts...........I hate the god damn thing........I can't lie so, if you want it I'll take $200.00...you still have to pick it up.....I also have an Eagle Claw, spin fly combo rod...I'll sell it with a browning reel for $65.00 you pick it up......It is the outfit I learned on and very capable, but hard to cast well...the rod is a bit of a log...it is a 5wt also....


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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    I'm a lucky guy!

    I should have mentioned that I'm from NY, that's a bit of a trip though I appreciate the offer.

    we've been fishing drys and nymphs about size 14-18 so that may not be the best option.


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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    I'm in NJ......the address on my profile is Wrigley Field, as I am a Cubs fan...I know......don't say it.....

    I wouldn't give any of these BOOBS on this site my real address.....I really will sell the rods...we can work out shipping.....

    Unless you are like Crazy Joe!

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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    I'm getting mixed messages here....

    She introduced you to fly fishing...
    She grew up fishing in Colorado...
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    She doesn't have a fly rod... ????

    IMHO: If she's more experienced than you, or if she's experienced enough to have a casting style, and preferences...
    SHE SHOULD PICK HER OWN EQUIPMENT !

    If you buy her something that doesn't suit her style, as long as you have a relationship, she'll feel obliged to use it .... even if she hates it.

    Most good tackle shops, will let her try a few rods, to see which one suits her.
    If going shopping together, isn't going to happen...
    Consider jewelry....


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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    Pete is right on the money. The rod is the only thing that is relevant. A reel is a reel, a line is a line, some of you may disagree; but a 30 dollar line and a 20 dollar reel will work just fine for catching trout. The rod is an extension of the fly fisherman or in these case fisherwomen. If the rod is not suited for the person casting it can causes problems. I have what would be considered medium speed style of casting. It is not a fast rod snap or a slow methodical technique. So I prefer a more medium action rod then a fast rod. I also have some trouble with my bamboos because they are slow. With the bamboo I am early and it causes the fly to catch the line and wind knots in the leader. With a fast rod, the rod has already loaded and is beginning to recover before I start to bring the rod in a forward casting motion. This causes the line to pile up. That is why I dislike my brother’s Hardy Zenith. It is a great rod just not suited for my style of casting.

    Here is a good read on rod speed and how to pick a rod the is suited to your style.

    Understanding Rod Action and Choosing the Right Rod for You | Orvis News

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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    Quote Originally Posted by tomfly View Post
    Pete is right on the money. The rod is the only thing that is relevant. A reel is a reel, a line is a line, some of you may disagree; but a 30 dollar line and a 20 dollar reel will work just fine for catching trout. The rod is an extension of the fly fisherman or in these case fisherwomen. If the rod is not suited for the person casting it can causes problems. I have what would be considered medium speed style of casting. It is not a fast rod snap or a slow methodical technique. So I prefer a more medium action rod then a fast rod. I also have some trouble with my bamboos because they are slow. With the bamboo I am early and it causes the fly to catch the line and wind knots in the leader. With a fast rod, the rod has already loaded and is beginning to recover before I start to bring the rod in a forward casting motion. This causes the line to pile up. That is why I dislike my brother’s Hardy Zenith. It is a great rod just not suited for my style of casting.

    Here is a good read on rod speed and how to pick a rod the is suited to your style.

    Understanding Rod Action and Choosing the Right Rod for You | Orvis News
    I agree with everything you say except the line is a line part...maybe this is true with plastic line, but put a Terenzio silk, or faux silk line on your reel and I believe you will think differently....

    But this guy should still buy my Pro 4x..it is a great deal if you like that kind(fast) of rod.....I'll through in the Browning reel for nothing..it has a $30.00 plastic line on it that you can have also......anyone? anyone?

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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    she fished with her fathers rods when she was 8-15, so she never owned her own rod and I don't think she has had enough exposure to have developed her own type of cast. I know she likes the 9 foot BVK that we have been using and would have to say she has a medium speed cast. if anything, perhaps I will just get her a reel and see if we can find some demo rods to test.

    she knows how to fish and all of the basics but she is relearning how to cast and manage her line..


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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric354 View Post

    she knows how to fish and all of the basics but she is relearning how to cast and manage her line..
    She sounds like she'll be fine, knowing all the basics of fly fishing but how to cast.

    The cast comes later, a minor detail of the sport.


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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    Quote Originally Posted by lightenup View Post
    but put a Terenzio silk, or faux silk line on your reel and I believe you will think differently
    Shut up about your fucking line. We all know you are getting paid to shill that greasy silk crap. Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric354 View Post
    she fished with her fathers rods when she was 8-15, so she never owned her own rod and I don't think she has had enough exposure to have developed her own type of cast. I know she likes the 9 foot BVK that we have been using and would have to say she has a medium speed cast. if anything, perhaps I will just get her a reel and see if we can find some demo rods to test.

    she knows how to fish and all of the basics but she is relearning how to cast and manage her line..

    Is this a convoluted euphemism? ... Incestuous grossness?


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    Re: newbie in the market for a new rod

    Quote Originally Posted by lightenup View Post
    I agree with everything you say except the line is a line part...maybe this is true with plastic line, but put a Terenzio silk, or faux silk line on your reel and I believe you will think differently....

    But this guy should still buy my Pro 4x..it is a great deal if you like that kind(fast) of rod.....I'll through in the Browning reel for nothing..it has a $30.00 plastic line on it that you can have also......anyone? anyone?

    I am not into that nostalgic silk line come back. I wont criticize you if you want to go through all that extra work. I could never see myself having to dry and dress that thing every time I have to use it. That does not sound fun to me. Besides silk is made in china they have enough of my money already. I have a few of these silver label fly lines The best 20 dollars I ever spent for a line. Best of all and they are made in the USA. I still think a line is a line for trout fishing. As long as it has the proper weight and does not retain memory it should work just fine.


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