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    Brain washed? I can see the forest for the trees. I know what's going on in this country and it has been going on for a long time. Much longer than before Bush. Big government, cradle to grave society is what they want. They want us all dependent on the government in some way shape or form.

    To believe you really have a choice with a two party system is foolish. They are all one in the same. Hopefully the revolution comes sooner than later. The faster Barry and his progressive miscreants destroy this country the faster we can rebuild it.

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    individualism>socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    talk about ill informed and brain washed. Single line item (singular) is for entitlements (plural). Those entitlements in the fed budget are social security and medicaid/medicare, and veterans benefits. welfare crack whores are a state issue and administered to by counties. You conservatives are just as much brain washed sheep as the liberals you like to bitch about.
    Welfare is state and federally funded.

    http://www.welfareinfo.org/

    Federally funded and governed US welfare began in the 1930's during the Great Depression. The US government responded to the overwhelming number of families and individuals in need of aid by creating a welfare program that would give assistance to those who had little or no income.

    The US welfare system stayed in the hands of the federal government for the next sixty-one years. Many Americans were unhappy with the welfare system, claiming that individuals were abusing the welfare program by not applying for jobs, having more children just to get more aid, and staying unmarried so as to qualify for greater benefits. Welfare system reform became a hot topic in the1990's. Bill Clinton was elected as President with the intention of reforming the federally run US Welfare program. In 1996 the Republican Congress passed a reform law signed by President Clinton that gave the control of the welfare system back to the states.

    Some programs are funded completely at the federal level, while others receive both state and federal funding. For example, Food Stamps and HUD programs are federally funded, while SSI is funded by the state and federal government alike. More in depth welfare information is available on each of these programs in regard to requirements, qualifications, and limitations and can be obtained through state agencies.

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Quote Originally Posted by tompg View Post
    talk about ill informed and brain washed. Single line item (singular) is for entitlements (plural). Those entitlements in the fed budget are social security and medicaid/medicare, and veterans benefits. welfare crack whores are a state issue and administered to by counties. You conservatives are just as much brain washed sheep as the liberals you like to bitch about.
    And your point is?

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouser Trout View Post
    And your point is?
    I think tompg is upset that I mixed up my singular and plural. Seriously though means tested welfare/food stamps all comes from the federal budget. Matters little who administers it and those that receive it hardly care . My general point and tompg once again didn't address it is that we have shifted substantially in demographics and we are at a critical mass of people receiving some kind of assistance from the government. Coupled with a conscious effort to tell folks that this will continue and that the rich(still undefined) should pay more because that's fair we will continue to see folks vote for more of the same. How many times has the administration said that they will preserve social security and Medicare. This Is just unsustainable and of course the democras know this.

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Pipe down you boobs. When health care reform takes place you all can get free mental health exams

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Quote Originally Posted by NJpatbee View Post
    There is no word that is more denigrating and dismissive than the Marxist word "masses". None of us consider ourselves as part of the "masses", but as individuals with our own concerns and opinions.


    Regardless of party or ideology, to refer to the majority of Americans as the "masses" implies an ignorant, clueless, bunch of sheep. I would not use this term for anyone on this site or anyone I know.
    Hmmm...as in:
    "Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    'Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!' cries she
    With silent lips. 'Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!' "

    That's what it says in that "Marxist" statue in New York harbor.


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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    Pipe down you boobs. When health care reform takes place you all can get free mental health exams
    Free for you perhaps

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Sorry for taking up bandwidth with my last post. I see Future Fanatic already raised this issue earlier.


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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Quote Originally Posted by MACFLY View Post
    Free for you perhaps
    It can be free for all of us. We just have to lose the work ethic and start pronouncing words that end in "th" with an F. Like boff, instead of both, and monfh instead of month. Now, is there anything else you would like to axe me?

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Quote Originally Posted by WBDluver View Post
    It can be free for all of us. We just have to lose the work ethic and start pronouncing words that end in "th" with an F. Like boff, instead of both, and monfh instead of month. Now, is there anything else you would like to axe me?
    I will not sink to your level. Bigotry has no place on NEFF.

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    Re: Nyc does not reflect our entire state

    Demographics, eh? Let me ax you where the problem at?


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