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    New State Record Brook Trout

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    Quote Originally Posted by CTobias View Post
    Too bad it wasn't caught on a fly....and too bad it wasn't wild.....still a nice fish...for a stocker...



    New state record brook trout caught in West Canada Wilderness Area in Hamilton County (includes audio interview) | syracuse.com
    When I was a kid..about 9 or 10, I caught a Brookie about that size in Clinton on a fat head....I killed it, gutted it and saw it's bright pink flesh.....It was the last trout I ever killed.....it had perfect fins..it was the most beautiful fish I have ever caught, I think is was wild....live and learn....

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    i bet you it tasted good

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

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    Damn....I knew i should have had this one weighed and measured.

    Hell no and it aint over now.......

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout Fever View Post
    i bet you it tasted good

    tf
    It satin the freezer and got freezer burn...another reason it was the lasttrout I everkilled.....

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    Bill Altman, the angler who caught that brookie, is a friend of mine (not only is he a good over all angler, he's a hell of a good builder, too, as well as being a gem of a guy; he built our Adirondack cabin for us several years ago.)

    -He really knows he stuff; brookie habitat and the best waters. He's taken plenty of big ones. Bill tried to get me on to those big fish, and disclosed some favorite waters. No luck yet on my end though.

    -I spoke with him on the phone a few days ago. As soon as I saw on T.V. that there was a new record brookie---Bill's name came to mind. My suspicions proved true! Bill took it.

    I'll be seeing him at his annual friends picnic. I can't wait to get the "whole story" from Bill. His fishing buddy trolls with sinking fly lines; I usually troll--via canoe, with traditional streamers on a sink-tip line in those Adirondack waters.

    The fish was determined, by NYS fisheries guys, as being planted as a fingerling. It was one of those Temiscamie X Domestic strains developed by my past faculty adviser at Cornell--Doc Webster. Webster had great faith in that hybrid, since it was more resistant to Adirondack acid rains. As students of his, we used to help collect data on the fish, during the mid-1970's, at his Adirondack study ponds--on ALC waters.

    That's why those fish up there are so large--for brookies. Hybrid with Canadian strains.

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    Thanks for that insight, Mike.

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    The real question though is how many guys did it take to land that fish? Did Bill have a guy in scuba gear steering that fish away from snags?

    Roll up the windows Brian, you're letting the stank out.

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    We're going to need GPS coordinates to said lake and surrounding lakes so we can verify that these fish in fact live in these lakes.

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    Quote Originally Posted by CTobias View Post
    Too bad it wasn't caught on a fly....and too bad it wasn't wild.....still a nice fish...for a stocker...



    New state record brook trout caught in West Canada Wilderness Area in Hamilton County (includes audio interview) | syracuse.com

    Bleh.. hatchery mutants dont count!!!

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    I have reservations about stocked fish being valid for state records. This one was stocked as a fingerling, so for me it is a great achievement to see the fish grow so large. Here in NJ I often target wild brookies and a 12 incher can make my entire season. The State of NJ stocks what are called "Frankenbrookies", usually in the Fall, that are often well over 20 inches with hooked jaws (breeders from the hatchery). I cannot see any of these trout being considered a state record - actually I am not even sure that they would qualify.

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    Re: New State Record Brook Trout

    Quote Originally Posted by NJpatbee View Post
    I have reservations about stocked fish being valid for state records. This one was stocked as a fingerling, so for me it is a great achievement to see the fish grow so large. Here in NJ I often target wild brookies and a 12 incher can make my entire season. The State of NJ stocks what are called "Frankenbrookies", usually in the Fall, that are often well over 20 inches with hooked jaws (breeders from the hatchery). I cannot see any of these trout being considered a state record - actually I am not even sure that they would qualify.
    Under that assessment there would be no state record lake, brown or rainbow Trout, Muskellunge or landlock Salmon all were stocked at one point. I do not dissagree with you but I do not see how you would be able to ascertain if the fish was a native or introduced. If it has been in out of the hatchery for a while, fins will regrow. The fish's color may change to better suited its enviroment. This would be a good poll.

    "Hatchery fish have the same colors, but they always seem muted like bad reproductions of great art." Bill Barich

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