Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

[Simms]

Been fishig beads for years...The hook 99% of the time is ALWAYS inside the mouth... Think about it... The bead goes in the 1.25'' (almost down the gullet) and the fishes(normally use beads for SLOB bows and steel) mouth is usually more than 1.25'' long... do the math..

[CTobias]

I believe any fish hooked on the outside of the jaw is considered foul hooked.

I am looking up the definition for a legally hooked fish for NYS....be back.....

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Im not saying there is a right or wrong way to fish an egg imitation on a fly rod, but there are glo bugs (hand tied FLIES) and there are... beads. Save them for all the pinners.

PSSSSSSSST.......beads were started by FLY FISHERMAN in Alaska. Not pinners.

[Twism]

Angling Definitions - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

"Foul-hooked means not hooked in the mouth."

So if the hook point penetrates the fish on the ouside of the mouth/ jaw that is foul hooked according to NYS.

I dont know much about bead fishing, so thanks. As long as they hook fish legitimately thats cool.

[CTobias]

Angling Definitions - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

"Foul-hooked means not hooked in the mouth."

So if the hook point penetrates the fish on the ouside of the mouth/ jaw that is foul hooked according to NYS.

I dont know much about bead fishing, so thanks. As long as they hook fish legitimately thats cool.

They must have changed it. I remember reading in the handbook a few years back that is was within 1" of the mouth. Probably because of all the snagger running around in ny

[howlingwulff]

I'm 60 years old and I don't remember anything in the reg book ever saying within an inch of the mouth was legal. On the other hand the people lining steelbows said it all the time. So did the people running cleaning stations.

[CTobias]

An article about beads.....

Ready or not…here I CHUM!!

[Walter H]

Thank you OP for your post. I’ve seen tons of guys up in the Lake Ontario “Tribs” using these bead rigs. I’m not going to get into the whole “do they count as flies” debate, or are they ethical, etc. I’ve always found some of their rules a little bit ambivalent, so maybe if someone is thinking about using them in the fly only section they should CALL one of the DEC hotlines or look for a DEC enforcement officer. Never hurts to ask people in one of the agencies about these thingsfficeffice" />>>
It was interesting to see that some have suggested that the trout bead rigs reduce mortality. I think if this is the case, I might try some next year. I see two potential weaknesses though. 1) The beads do slip, and pegging will cause line abrasion. 2) Trout beads are hard and have no “give”, where as Glo Bug type flies have some natural give, will your opportunity to set the hook be shorter with a trout bead? >>
Anybody have personal experiences? Just curious. >>

[skipper3245]

I use almost solely beads when I egg fish. I have found that it is much easier to release a fish on beads, and 99% of the time it hooks the corner of their mouth. You can do alot with these beads that you cannot do with glo bugs. I coat all of my beads with a non toxic nail polish and you can give it a translucent look and much more real. You can make bead sacs. I use 2-3x tippet for my bead rig so I have run into few occasions that I have broke off due to pegging. I find that with glo bugs the fish has a much higher chance of swallowing the hook. Also if you go barbless on the stinger hook, it is very very ethical to use this rig.

[CTobias]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I’ve always found some of their rules a little bit ambivalent, so maybe if someone is thinking about using them in the fly only section they should CALL one of the DEC hotlines or look for a DEC enforcement officer.

You can't fish beads in the fly zone. I've already spoken to the Encon Officers up there, besides the definition of a "fly" is clear in the NYS freshwater fishing rulees and regulations book.

Artificial fly means a hook with no more than two points dressed with feathers, hair, thread, tinsel or any similar material to which no additional hooks, spinners, spoons or similar devices have been added.
Angling Definitions - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation