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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    I'm sure everybody posting here would like to see more C&R.

    In this vein I saw an article thinking about the success with steelhead fishing on the Ohio Lake Erie tribs. Seems like Ohio doesn't have much of a trout fishing heritage so Ohio anglers are much more likely to practice C&R - they are not accustomed to bringing trout home (not like walleye) and can enjoy steelie fishing for the sport alone. Therefore, some steelies are caught 12 times, which helps the sport. In PA and NYS there is a long heritage of "release to the grease" trout fishing so a lot of steelies go home on a rope.


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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    Beads and bare hooks........................did I go to GST by accident?????

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    Quote Originally Posted by flickfly View Post
    But ! I can't help being suspicious of this type of tackle as I've seen too many people abuse it.
    This is why Alaska has a law that the bead can't be more than 2" away from the hook.

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    I stopped fishing for the Atlantics and summer run Steelies in mid July when the upper fly zone water temps hit 72 and over. Fran Verdileva (I know I didn't spell that right) put up temperature warning signs and restrictions on heavy sink tips and lines.
    Fran had watched guys with flyrods & reels Ripping heavy sinking lines and heavy flies across
    the bottoms of the pools-fish were being snagged so it will be under some new regs I guess.


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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Broadheadscreek View Post
    .Also summer month fishing in the upper fly zone will be restricted to floating lines only no sink tips no weight .
    I believe that law already exsits.

    Special Regulations for Great Lakes & Tributaries - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

    Additional Weight: Between August 15 and April 30 of the following year, the maximum distance between the artificial fly and any added weight to the line, leader or tippet shall not exceed four feet. Between May 1 and August 15, no supplemental weight shall be placed on the leader, tippet or fly line. At any time during the year, weight shall not be added to the line, leader, swivels or artificial fly in any manner such that the weight hangs lower than the attached fly when the line or leader is suspended vertically from the rod. Use of supplemental weight such that the weight is the primary means of propelling the cast rather than the fly line or shooting line is prohibited.

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    Hi Chris,

    Yes this law pertains to weight added to the line. I'm sorry to miss lead by adding weight to my statement . I'm referring to the use of sink tips and sinking lines can no longer be used during the summer months in the upper fly zone . This is to help out the atlantics that are up there during this period of time.


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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Broadheadscreek View Post
    Hi Chris,

    Yes this law pertains to weight added to the line. I'm sorry to miss lead by adding weight to my statement . I'm referring to the use of sink tips and sinking lines can no longer be used during the summer months in the upper fly zone . This is to help out the atlantics that are up there during this period of time.

    Makes sense. I have seen a lot of fly jackers when I've been up there with my 3wt farting around catching smolts on dries.

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    I love saggin the Atlantics on their beds...Size 6 golden stone through the nest, SET....SIZZLE...


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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    Perhaps tying on a sperm sack would constitute it a fly for ya?

    Sperm sack???? I'm bent over holding my crotch just thinking about that statment

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    You can throw some spoons with a fly rod with a stiff enough leader. Is that fly fishing... No. Neither is fishing with beads. It's just fishing using a fly rod. Nothing wrong with that as long as it isn't tried to be made into something that it isn't.

    I like to save my beads for Mardi Gras...

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    disagree totally. To me at least..fly fishing is just using a fly rod, fly line, and an artificial lure. According to your philosophy, say if a spin caster threw on a wollybugger, that would be fly fishing. I would still consider that spin casting. Its the tackle that you use. Only gray area is that i have seen a fly rod with live minnows on the sbr. I would not consider that fly fishing. You did say something about spoons. Well here is one that is a spoon but also has feathers. Its still a fly. pretty impressive video how doug makes it too.

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    Re: Kick the globug habbit and start running beads.....

    I 'm in total agreement with you that casting a woolly bugger with a spin rod is spin fishing since with spin fishing what is being cast with the rod doesn't matter much. It can be bait, lures, or artificial flies.

    In fly fishing it's the fly, the rod and the line. Fly fishing is more steeped in the process and traditionally it's the process that's as important as the result.

    The spoon fly has been around for a bunch of years. If you notice it is tied on a hook and not cast or molded. The spoonfly is a fly. A Clark spoon is a spoon.

    To try and eliminate any gray areas, some states have been forced to legislate what a fly is. One state's regulations for fly fishing only water defines a fly: "Fishing may be done with artificial flies and streamers constructed of natural or synthetic materials, so long as all flies are constructed in a normal fashion on a single hook with components wound on or about the hook. Anything other than these items is prohibited... fish eggs (natural or molded), or any other edible substance is prohibited."

    Like I said before, I see nothing wrong with beads, I just don't think it's fly fishing.

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