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    Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    It was a fine day on a Class 1 WTMA small stream. Having read a post on fishing beetles and ants I tied up a half dozen beetles last eve and headed out for a spell.

    The stream was absolutly beautiful, clear and cool with a temp of 60 degrees.








    It didn't take long for the beetle to connect.







    Found some of these, don't know what they are.







    A simple but effective beetle pattern







    A wild brown fooled by a beetle








    A a wild brookie with a black body and belly. It is the first that I've taken from this stream.








    To celebrate this fine outing, a salmon and shrimp, eggplant lasagna.










    With watermelon sherbet for desert.









    Thanks AT for the thought on beetles.


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    I've been reading alot about beetles lately, too. Seems to be the "go to" when the trout aren't really hitting anything consistently. I've been thinking about trying a few next time I am on a nice chunk of water...
    Thanks for the report BRK!


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    To me, beetles and ants go with other important flies I overlook too often, such as scuds, worms, crayfish, and ugh, eggs. Speaking of terrestrials, last night on a small creek in Jersey I tried a big ol' honkin' Chernobyl at dusk, just for kicks. It didn't work one bit, so I switched to a #12 wooley bugger with a fast upstream retrieve, and that worked. One day I hope to have that outing where terrestrials are the shit, but other flies keep getting in the way! Thanks for the report and pics of weird food. BRK TRT are you pregnant?


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    Roughly what size beetles and ants were you using? I never seem to get it right when using terresterials, hoppers and the like.

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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    I would say 14 is starting point for NJ beetles and you can go up or down a size or two. Size 20 jassids under weeping willow trees - jassids are lttle beetles that are a pest for willows. However, if you only carry one size a 14 is a good place to start.

    For ants I like to start about a 12 or maybe a 14 if I am chicken. The Eastern woods have tons of large carpenter ants on stream side trees - look carefully and you will see them. Trout can't resist carpenter ants. One guide I met in VA uses size 10 ants, but I haven't the nerve to go that big yet. Use the small flying ants in late summer/early fall when those guys are on the move. However, don't forget about the larger ants. Also, ants can't swim and a sinking ant is a pretty deadly pattern.


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    Thanks for the info. I have yet to try those guys in NJ streams, only had some luck with them in CT- mainly the Farmington and Housy rivers. I wonder if I can put a split shot on an ant as I have not seen a sinking ant fly.

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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    Quote Originally Posted by kbuchta View Post
    Roughly what size beetles and ants were you using? I never seem to get it right when using terresterials, hoppers and the like.

    Most of the beetles I tie are size 14. They are very effective dead drifted.


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    Quote Originally Posted by BRK TRT View Post
    They are very effective dead drifted.
    And sometimes twitched. In fact, I've caught a lot of fish on a steady retrieve across slack water as well , usually in low light. Cant go wrong with beetles.

    And peacock herl bodies are a must (unless there's something specific you're trying to match thats different).

    Although it feels a little like cheating sometimes, simple black foam beetles usually outfish hair and feathers for me. Also good for hanging a (light) nymph or 2 off of.


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    I just tried out a beetle for the first time the other day... I've caught using hoppers, but I stand by the parachute adams over any terrestrial in my experiences.


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    All flies have their day. In the summer when mayfly hatches are pretty much over a beetle can be a better choice. In April when the gray mayflies are prevalent an Adams is a top choice. Both are good flies that are OK most of the season, but us fly guys have to change our flies just to feel we are doing something.


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    Re: Beetles, Browns and Black Belly Brookies

    AK Best (you know the "Other AK") at the fly fishing shows, he demonstrates his AK Beetle in size #14.

    I really do like it when I have something useful to add to a thread.

    As always, gleeful

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