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    Steelhead Fisherman

    OK Steely guys I need help.

    This November I'm hoping to start steelhead fishing on the Salmon River. I think I'm going to get a guide for my first trip. I read on a site that you should wear bootfoot waders instead of stocking foot waders a few sizes to big for more insulated layers.

    I have stocking foot waders now and I really didn't want boot foot waders and I also wear size 13 boots and have a hard time to find a few sizes to big.

    So what type of waders do you guys wear? Thanks

    Jeremy

    BTW, how cold is the water in November in the Salmon.


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    I guide steelhead fly only trips based out of Erie, PA, and have fished the Salmon river extensively. If you have the means to get out to Erie I highly suggest it. The steelhead run in the salmon simply does not begin to compare to anywhere on the lake erie tributaries. If you do go to the salmon, i would suggest hiring a guide out of whitaker's sports or Dave Barber.
    As far as gear goes, typical breathable waders with heavy fleece pants over expedition weight capilene long underwear, smartwool (walmart equivalent is best) socks with liners, and boots nice and loose. Hardcore winter guys upsize boots one size or switch to bootfoots. I hate neoprene as i like to walk the creek but they are warm so long as u dont sweat.
    The best way to obtain all of this frozen fisherman gear is at a good army surplus store. They have the exact same shit as patagonia or simms for WAY less money. Any other questions feel free to give me a ring. Matt Ippoliti, 917 715 3424... I have over 1200 days fishing for steelhead on great lakes tributaries....


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Thanks. I may give you a call. A friend of mine was there and may go with me but I think a guide would help for the first time. Thanks

    Jeremy


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    I have a large foot, usually a 14, and I find the Simms Freestones run big. I can fit my foot with a heavy sock and stocking foot waderers in a 13 very confortably. Good luck


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Thanks Fishin, I usually wear a 14 wading shoe too. I'll try the Freestones.

    Jeremy


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    This past season was the first time I used breathables in the winter, ( I've been using some old bootfoot neoprenes). I ordered my wading boots 2 sizes larger than my shoe size and needed the room. 2 heavy pair of socks and my feet would get a little cold if I stayed in one place for a long time. Not a big problem I like to move around and my legs were fine with several layers. If going with stocking foots I would try on boots with several pairs of socks, you need the room for layers and it's important to have room for your toes to move. Hope this helps.


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    I'd see if CTobias will take you out. You will learn as much and catch as many as with a guide.

    The coldest water temps I've measured was around 36 degrees. I fished every other weekend up there last season from Nov. to Apr. Never took a reading much colder than that.

    As for waders...I always wear stocking foot neos (3-5mm). Go to Cabellas and get their Wool wader socks (the ones that go up to your knees) and a pair of wickaway sock liners. Also, buy a set of Armour Under pants and shirt. You will stay warm just fine. As for boots, go a size larger so they will not be tight on your feet.

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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Quote Originally Posted by coloradoguide View Post
    The steelhead run in the salmon simply does not begin to compare to anywhere on the lake erie tributaries (maybe that's because they stock almost a million steelhead)
    Of course it doesn't compare. Lake Erie doesn't stock salmon, so they only stock steelhead. Fishing out there is alright if you like catching small steelhead, but you wont get the size at all like the Salmon River has. Here is my proof. Look at these pictures and tell me which fish you would rather catch.

    Now granted you have a better chance of catching a natural reproduction steelhead out there, but the SR I feel is a much more challenging river system to fish.

    Anyways on to answer your question, I wear SIMMS Muckboots in the winter. My feet never get cold. I do wear my stocking foots once in a while when I am going to be walking a lot. It's all about layering. I usually have one moisture whicking layer followed by a two layers of fleece on my legs. I wear a wool sweater and fleece jacket over it on really cold days. If you are going to be in the water for a good portion of the day, you are going to want boot foot waders. I have seen the water at 33 degrees. The one nice thing about fishing for steelhead in the winter, is you don't have to get up at the butt crack of dawn. I usually don't get on the water until around 7:30 or 8:00. There are a lot of guides up on the SR, but only a few I would personally recommend. Shoot me a PM and I can get you the contact info for some of the better fly fishing guides up there. I know an excellent guide for Spey fishing.





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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Thanks Cdog. I wasn't sure if he would take a newbe out. I'll get in touch with him. I'm hoping for shore trip since I don't have a drift boat.

    Jeremy


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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Quote Originally Posted by CTobias View Post
    Of course it doesn't compare. Lake Erie doesn't stock salmon, so they only stock steelhead. Fishing out there is alright if you like catching small steelhead, but you wont get the size at all like the Salmon River has. Here is my proof. Look at these pictures and tell me which fish you would rather catch.

    Now granted you have a better chance of catching a natural reproduction steelhead out there, but the SR I feel is a much more challenging river system to fish.

    Anyways on to answer your question, I wear SIMMS Muckboots in the winter. My feet never get cold. I do wear my stocking foots once in a while when I am going to be walking a lot. It's all about layering. I usually have one moisture whicking layer followed by a two layers of fleece on my legs. I wear a wool sweater and fleece jacket over it on really cold days. If you are going to be in the water for a good portion of the day, you are going to want boot foot waders. I have seen the water at 33 degrees. The one nice thing about fishing for steelhead in the winter, is you don't have to get up at the butt crack of dawn. I usually don't get on the water until around 7:30 or 8:00. There are a lot of guides up on the SR, but only a few I would personally recommend. Shoot me a PM and I can get you the contact info for some of the better fly fishing guides up there. I know an excellent guide for Spey fishing.




    There goes CT PIMPIN' the Salmon again...


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    Erie is fun, Salmon is rewarding.

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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Salmon River Fish







    Erie Fish





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    Re: Steelhead Fisherman

    Quote Originally Posted by troutbum2live View Post
    There goes CT PIMPIN' the Salmon again...


    I bet you and Rick Kustich don't get along do you?



    Erie is fun, Salmon is rewarding.

    Haha. I pimp the SR like he pimps the CATT.

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