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    Hook brand

    Hey guys i was just wondering about which brand of hooks to buy for tying nymphs and some drys.It will be nymphs more so than drys as i have not mastered the art of tying hackles and wings on drys thanks for any input lads and lassies.

    Jamie


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    Re: Hook brand

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiep View Post
    Hey guys i was just wondering about which brand of hooks to buy for tying nymphs and some drys.It will be nymphs more so than drys as i have not mastered the art of tying hackles and wings on drys thanks for any input lads and lassies.

    Jamie

    Tiemco/Umpqua Extremely sharp point, won't rust, strong.

    Cdog


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    Re: Hook brand

    I agree with Cdog ,I use Tiemco for almost all flies.

    Jeremy


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    Re: Hook brand

    Jamie:

    Since your just starting out I highly recomment you use only Mustad hooks.

    For one they are far less expensive than Tiemco, Gamakatsu or Daiichi.
    The Mustad you can purchase 100 hook package for under $15.00 that will last you a very long time.

    You only need four kind of hooks to tie the basic patterns.

    Dry fly hook; 94833
    Wet fly hook: 3906
    Streamer fly hook: 94720
    Terrestrial, Caddis, stonefly hook: AC80050

    Hook sizes since your just getting started tying.
    Dry fly #14, 16
    Wet fly #14
    Streamer fly #8
    Terrestrial, Caddis #14

    Again, go with the Mustads, you are learning to tie and using up hooks shouldn't be a financial burden.

    The one's I list should cost you less than $75.00. You don't need to buy them all at once either.

    Buy the dry fly hooks for dries, wets & terrestrials #14 - 16
    But get the 94720 for Woolly Buggers #8
    Now you are less than $45.00 or even as low as $30.00 for #14 dry hooks (can also tie wet and caddis, but get the #8 for Woolly Buggers).

    Spend the money you would have wasted on top of the line hooks on materials.


    Mustad 100 @ $12.95
    Gamakatsu 25 @ $5.29
    Tiemco 25 @ $6.15

    I saw your Elk Hair Caddis, nice. But you do have an outstanding vise in that Regal.

    Lately I had a few different people PM ask for some pointers on tying.
    I was considering putting together a thread on the basics, and the various types of tying equipment.

    Since I am responding to your post.. I haven't got that far into putting it together, but here goes.

    Bobbins



    There are a number of different makes and models.
    Starting out I suggest the bobbin in the top row - middle.
    Terra ceramic $9.00

    Bodkin



    Many out there, but the first one second row.
    Cost about $3.00 does everything you need to do, thin
    enough, but has strength.

    Tweezers



    The first one is the one I use the most.
    Can be purchased at any drug store...

    or... when the wife isn't looking....

    Head Cement



    The second from the right, $3.50 is all you need.

    Applicators



    The last one had a bodkin attached to the cap.

    When you knock it over without the cap on...
    You won't spill the entire bottle.


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    Re: Hook brand

    Thanks guys.

    Ak Thanks you very much for taking the time to post such an informative response.Jesus i wasnt expecting that i have the bobbin you spoke of.

    Also the bodkin and the head cement.
    I love the vise i have the missus got it for a anniversary gift.
    I will have to start using her tweezers also .I've been tying zebra midges and disco midges the past night or so and have used up all the hooks that came with the kit i got.

    Now i just have to figure out how to post pics of some of the flies i am tying on a thread

    Thanks for the heads up on the hook prices also.

    Jamie


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    Re: Hook brand

    Good advice from AK!

    Jamiep:

    Just to help you out with the Mustads, three of the hooks AK recommended have been upgraded by Mustad and actually are even better than before with proportional sizing and micro barbs. The prices haven't gone up much and in some case hardly at all so with the improvements they are an even better buy than before.

    The NEW hooks have slightly different model numbers so this may help you when you go shopping:

    Dry fly hook: 94833 is now R30-94833
    Wet fly hook: 3906 is now S80-3906
    Streamer fly hook: 94720 is now R79-94720

    Have fun!

    Hatches?, I don't got to show you any stinkin' hatches!! - FUBO

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    Re: Hook brand

    Thanks bam.

    heres a midge that i tied please dont hold back let me know what u think

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    Re: Hook brand

    Good point Bam.

    It might be sometime before all the shops have the new numbers so take both set of numbers with you when you go shopping.

    Bam, do you have a complete listing of cross reference numbers that you can post?


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    Re: Hook brand

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiep View Post
    Thanks bam.

    heres a midge that i tied please dont hold back let me know what u think
    THAT will catch fish.


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    Re: Hook brand

    Nymphs the tiemcos are fine
    Once you get serious about Streamers, however- a Gaelic Supreme Mike Martinek, 8xl #1 is the best


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    Re: Hook brand

    jamie,

    I started out with Mustads, but quickly learned that they don't have good hook points which leads to lost fish and they are prone to rust.

    Never ever had a problem with Tiemco hooks. They may cost more, but they are worth the money in my book.

    Let the hook wars begin.

    Cdog


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    Re: Hook brand

    Jamie,

    Since we're on the topic of hooks, one thing to keep in mind is there are no standards with hooks. So a Tiemco standard dry fly hook (#100) and a Mustad dry fly hook (#94840) will probably be slightly different. Even for a given manufacturer, there will be distinctions. For example the difference between the Mustad #94840 dry fly hook and the Mustad #94833 dry fly hook is that the former is made from standard gauge wire, while the latter uses finer wire. The upshot is that things get confusing fast.

    One way to learn your way around these distinctions is to use a hook conversion table. These are subjective, but I've found them very useful for educating myself about the variations. If a fly recipe calls for a Tiemco #100, I can look up the equivalent in a Mustad (or Daiichi or Orvis or whatever). Here are my favorite online conversion tables. Again, they are not hard science but will get you close:


    Hook Comparison Chart
    Fly Hook Comparison Chart
    HOOK CHARTS

    Enjoy!
    Fly Rod


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