View Poll Results: Do you dead drift or swing your CDC emergers?

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  • What the hell is CDC? "Can't do crap" for me

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    CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    I've been having some issue with fishing my CDC emergers, the lack of fish on the line. I've been trying to dead drift them but have realized this might be completely wrong. I don't use much CDC because I have to squeeze all the time and/or treat it.

    Question is do you folks swing or dead drift your CDC emergers?

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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Burtbords149 View Post
    I don't use much CDC because I have to squeeze all the time and/or treat it.

    Question is do you folks swing or dead drift your CDC emergers?
    Burt:

    You don't treat the CDC with anything (floatant). The natural oils of the feather gives it buoyancy. False cast a few times will remove any water.

    Either way, dead drift and swinging it. As it reaches the end of either drift the line becoming taught will bring the fly to the surface. Thus an emerger rising to the surface.

    If you have enough CDC on the fly to keep in the surface film, then I would dead drift it.



    I don't have a photo here, but some use the CDC as an under wing to elk or deer hair wings also, that provides a good deal of buoyancy to the fly.


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    I think the barbules adds more to CDC floating ability then any remaining oils from the ducks ass. CDC is washed and stained, if the oils were still present, then the stain would not take.


    Overall (Type 1) CDC feather.


    Zooming in on the CDC feather structure, the stem shows, besides the barbs, jagged protrusions. The barbs in turn sport ribbonlike twisted barbules. Flattened barbules maximize the surface area. In the surface film, a larger and water-repellent surface area assists floatation of the dry CDC pattern.


    Zooming in even more, this illustration shows a submerged CDC feather. The ribbonlike and twisted barbules retain tiny bubbles of air that add buoyancy to the CDC.
    Francis Friesen Illustrations


    Quote Originally Posted by AKSkim View Post
    Burt:

    You don't treat the CDC with anything (floatant). The natural oils of the feather gives it buoyancy. False cast a few times will remove any water.

    Either way, dead drift and swinging it. As it reaches the end of either drift the line becoming taught will bring the fly to the surface. Thus an emerger rising to the surface.

    If you have enough CDC on the fly to keep in the surface film, then I would dead drift it.



    I don't have a photo here, but some use the CDC as an under wing to elk or deer hair wings also, that provides a good deal of buoyancy to the fly.



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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    I fish them both ways, if you swing them alot then get some Frog's Fanny.
    this will help keep the CDC dry, much more than false casting. If you are
    casting to rising fish they are killer if you have the right pattern.


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    I've heard not to treat them with liquids. I use frog's fanny but I find myself treating them every other cast or so because the CDC get's soaked and the fly just sinks. I've heard that the action the CDC creates is very lifelike and this is why i thought maybe it should be swung. I tie with CDC but I'm not a huge fan of it. I would rather take some hollow deer or elk hair.

    Any suggestions as to solve my tying/fishing them issues.

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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Burtbords149 View Post
    Any suggestions as to solve my tying/fishing them issues.
    Now that you ask.. I just started a new thread... entitled (of all things)

    "A typical NEFF thread"

    I believe that should help you out with your question.. or at least answer it.


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    Burt,

    CDC emergers are great! They float like corks if tied properly. Store bought emergers tend not to have enough CDC tied in because CDC is expensive. I tie an emerger on a light scud shaped hook to match the naturals based upon Jimmy Charron's pattern (Now catching big ones high in the sky) and Joe T's great advice.

    Try this... This is for psuedos/Beatis otherwise known as small olives. Use olive thread and dubbing... wind the thread on (for really small flies only need the thread for the body) Dub with olive dubbing to match the natural. Stop about 3/5ths of the way up hook. Strip, with your fingers, the feathers off the stem of about 5 CDC feathers. Put them into a little pile. When done pick the pile up with your fingers and roll into a little, fat but tight, cigarette shape. Tie on to hook across the hook and then post up both sides (like a chute post). Finish with some dubbing for the thorax. Cut the CDC leaving a little brush of CDC protruding upward from the hook. I tie mine really dense so that it's packed in there which is what makes them float like a cork. If it gets wet squeeze in fleece/shirt and treat with frog fanny.

    Good luck

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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Burtbords149 View Post
    Question is do you folks swing or dead drift your CDC emergers?
    Both! At the end of a drift, allow the fly to submerge. Slowly retrieve the fly back to you. You'd be suprised how many takes you'll get.

    Kurt


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    I do both also. But because I allow them to swing at the end of the drift, I voted for Swing because that's usually the action that catches the fish. That and letting it sit in the current afterwards. So that explains the lone "swing" vote.

    Lately, I've been catching suckers on CDC sulphur emergers. Wasn't catching them on anything else. What's up with that?


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jessie View Post
    I do both also. But because I allow them to swing at the end of the drift, I voted for Swing because that's usually the action that catches the fish. That and letting it sit in the current afterwards. So that explains the lone "swing" vote.

    Lately, I've been catching suckers on CDC sulphur emergers. Wasn't catching them on anything else. What's up with that?
    Any fish that would be fooled by steel, fur & feathers is a SUCKER.


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jessie View Post
    I do both also. But because I allow them to swing at the end of the drift, I voted for Swing because that's usually the action that catches the fish. That and letting it sit in the current afterwards. So that explains the lone "swing" vote.

    Lately, I've been catching suckers on CDC sulphur emergers. Wasn't catching them on anything else. What's up with that?

    Jessie,
    I always suspected that you were a swinger.


    Burt-e-boy,

    You know me...I never swing, so that only leaves dead drifting.

    I love fishing emergers in the surface film to rising fish that are feeding on them. Here's my method: Pinch the emerger's CDC between your thumb and index finger. Then take some sink (Gink) and put it on the emerger body to aid in sinking. The CDC will stay on the surface and the emerger body will ride in or just under the surface film, depending on how long/high you make the CDC post (use NJFred's tying method). Cast it upstream the same way you would a dry. I mostly fish midge patterns or tiny BWOs this way. Very effective on picky and stuborn trout.

    Cdog


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    Re: CDC Emerger:Dead Drift or Swing?

    What exactly is a CDC Emerger?

    Randy


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