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    New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    This is sure to be a controversial topic here, but over 20 Wild Trout Streams are listed publicly on the Internet.

    I have fished Teetertown Brook, Van Campens, Dunnfield Creek, Bear Swamp Brook, and a few others.

    I will be fishing about 5 new streams this year and will post reports.

    The intention is not to spot burn, but instead to offer insight on the condition of these little gems.

    Bear Swamp Brook, for example, is a miracle. It is like Jurassic Park.

    Have fun catching a 2 inch brookie there, after a 2 mile hike, mostly uphill.

    Only the truly dedicated would bother the visit.

    So I will use my judgment, but intend to offer some insight on the condition of our wild trout streams this year.

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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    The "listed" WTS in NJ are in no way meant to be a list of all wild trout streams in the state. That # would be well into the hundreds, especially when listing S1 headwater streams. That particular list was composed by the Division because the streams had good enough public access and strong enough populations in addition to holding large enough trout to be deemed of interest to the wild trout angler.

    No other topic will bring more anger than spot burning of smaller WTS in any state. Even though most trout anglers do not fish the smaller streams and spot burning may not lead to any new angling pressure, some streams will receive a lot of attention and can quickly be over fished. Personally, I seldom fish these little gems, being more happy to protect and restore them instead. But I'm glad we have plenty of them!

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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
    The "listed" WTS in NJ are in no way meant to be a list of all wild trout streams in the state. That # would be well into the hundreds, especially when listing S1 headwater streams. That particular list was composed by the Division because the streams had good enough public access and strong enough populations in addition to holding large enough trout to be deemed of interest to the wild trout angler.

    No other topic will bring more anger than spot burning of smaller WTS in any state. Even though most trout anglers do not fish the smaller streams and spot burning may not lead to any new angling pressure, some streams will receive a lot of attention and can quickly be over fished. Personally, I seldom fish these little gems, being more happy to protect and restore them instead. But I'm glad we have plenty of them!
    I have no interest in "spot burning." I intend only to visit the published WTS's that are publicly available to all on the Internet.

    I honestly don't know any spots in Jersey that hold wild trout that are not published on the Net.


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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Last year I attempted both Jackson Brook and Parker Brook, both listed as WTS, I spent a lot of time at each, good luck catching a trout in either one, my yen for catching small stream wild trout will force me to explore more areas this year.

    Hell no and it aint over now.......

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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    For the bads news; Parker Bk has suffered over the years and access to Burnett Bk has been dwindling.

    For the good news; plenty of gems in the rest, but no secrets.


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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Quote Originally Posted by golden beetle View Post
    I have no interest in "spot burning." I intend only to visit the published WTS's that are publicly available to all on the Internet.

    I honestly don't know any spots in Jersey that hold wild trout that are not published on the Net.
    There are dozens and dozens, so you'll be pleasantly surprised if/when you find some of them.

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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Connecticut is the same when it comes to published wild trout streams. The streams in the guide are only a sample of whats available to the angler willing to walk some. Many of the streams are on state forest lands, and also on private land.
    The beauty of these streams along with the soitude and wild gems that inhabit them are worth my effort.

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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Quote Originally Posted by golden beetle View Post
    i have no interest in "spot burning." i intend only to visit the published wts's that are publicly available to all on the internet.

    I honestly don't know any spots in jersey that hold wild trout that are not published on the net.
    gb, any creek is always worth a shot.whats the worst that happens you catch a chub lol. I got suprised one day as im sure many others have. Dont just go by that list!


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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    It's impossible to "spot burn" a NJ WTS. They're already "burned".
    Every copy of the regulations, available at most tackle shops contains the list.

    As to availability on the internet... The Fish & wildlife website contains a list of hundreds of lesser known "TP" (trout production) streams. If you search their website, (or some of my old posts), you'll find the link.

    Fortunately, commercial poachers, and the "catch & eat" crowd, aren't particularly interested in 2" to 9" fish. Two of them have thrived near a community that's been living off the land since the Revolutionary War.

    IMHO: A bigger threat is developers, who would like to get exemptions to the Highlands Act, and build along these lesser known streams. Since few people know about them, very few people show up to object, at the public hearings.


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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    (or some of my old posts), you'll find the link
    Petey-Po

    Which one's ??

    The one's where you painted the link on the cave wall, or the one's you chiseled in granite?


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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    See my comments below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It's impossible to "spot burn" a NJ WTS. They're already "burned".
    Every copy of the regulations, available at most tackle shops contains the list. Very much an incomplete list and misses literally hundreds of true WTS.

    As to availability on the internet... The Fish & wildlife website contains a list of hundreds of lesser known "TP" (trout production) streams. If you search their website, (or some of my old posts), you'll find the link. Correct, and that is much closer to the real list of WTS in NJ, but even that gets changed every year as NJ F&W conducts electro fishing on our smaller tribs. I could name at least 9 new streams not yet listed as TP but that will be soon based on electro fishing results.

    Fortunately, commercial poachers, and the "catch & eat" crowd, aren't particularly interested in 2" to 9" fish. Two of them have thrived near a community that's been living off the land since the Revolutionary War. I only wish there were true, but unfortunately it is not. Some of our non-listed wild trout streams contain wild fish of all 3 species that are well in excess of 9"! And we've seen commercial scale poaching for the restaurant market on some of them.

    IMHO: A bigger threat is developers, who would like to get exemptions to the Highlands Act, and build along these lesser known streams. Since few people know about them, very few people show up to object, at the public hearings. On that we agree, but we are not seeing many exemptions to allow building on Highlands trout streams within either a 150' or 300' buffer (depending on stream classification). We are seeing the odd request, but not approvals.


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    Re: New Jersey Wild Trout Streams

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spinner View Post
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    Restaurant poaching! you have got to be fucking kidding me. Pathetic!!


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