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Users Guidelines & Terms of Service

Please read this before using this system, you'll save the admins alot of time & aggravation


I. Considering the real-time nature of the North Eastern Fly Fishing Message Board, it is impossible for us to review messages or confirm the validity of information posted. Please remember that we do actively monitor the contents of posted messages but are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of the publisher, administrators and moderators of njflyfishing.com/neflyfishing.net or any entity associated with njflyfishing.com/neflyfishing.net.

Interpretation: People who post here have different and varied opinions. Many of them know what they are talking about, others don't. We'll leave it to you to decide who is which. Just try not to take the whole thing too seriously and don’t expect us to either. If you don't want to see critical comments, you should go away now. If your sole purpose of posting is to be belligerent, combative, aggressive, critical and negative as possible for no apparent reason, you should also go away.

II. Any user who feels that a posted message violates the guidelines set forth is encouraged to contact us immediately. Click on this button () Report this Post in the upper right corner of the post to file a report. You may also email, use the private message function of this Message Board or telephone us 908.578.5407. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately.

III. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this Message Board software service to post or upload any material which is knowingly False and/or Defamatory, intentionally Inaccurate, Abusive, Belligerent, Vulgar, Hateful, Harassing, Obscene, Profane, Sexually Explicit, Threatening, Invasive of a Person's Privacy, or otherwise Violative of any Law. Personal attacks are strictly prohibited and will be dealth with by banning any such user who does not heed this warning..

Interpretation: “Your opinion shows a lack of knowledge. My opinion is correct because....” is not a personal attack. “You are a ****** idiot and your mother ........” is a personal attack. If all you can write is that some other person's opinion is stupid or dumb, you are proving your inability to express yourself in intelligible English. You therefore are the idiot!

Posts such as this will get you banned:

"I want a piece of you....I will kick your A*S*S like no other you piece of crap!
You chicken S*H*I*T dirtball>>>>>>>>>>>IF I EVER RUN INTO YOU>>>>>>>>>>YOUR A*S*S IS MINE!!!!!" or "I'm from the bronx and my street experience is all I need to take care of you".

Other hot buttons for us include racist comments and really, really mean things. Excessive use of exclamation points, arrows (!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>>>>>>) or SENTENCES IN ALL CAPS is also discouraged. Bypassing the censoring settings by typing expletives, such as shown in the above quotation only proves your immaturity and ignorance. Constant use of the Reply with Quote button Reply with Quote should be avoided since it makes reading the thread more difficult and wastes $$$$$ of bandwidth. Uploading soft or hard porn or any picture that you may not want your own kids to see will get you banned and reported to your IP and/or your company's IT/Network manager. We'll cc your HR manager just to be mean and destroy your career.

IV. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by njflyfishing.com/neflyfishing.net.

Please post quotes from articles with a link to the actual article when possible.

V. Although this Message Board itself does not and cannot review the messages posted and is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we at this community reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless this community, NEFF/njflyfishing.com/neflyfishing.net, and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s).

Interpretation: Removal or deletion of posted material is at the discretion of the administrators and moderators. While we try to be consistant, some days we may just be a little more easily irritated than others. We're very lienient with censoring various items however, this is a privately owned and operated web site and therefore your First Amendment rights under the US Constitution do not apply. We make no apologies for this and do not wish to hear any crybaby whinings about censorship. You're pretty much free to say whatever you want, as long as it references fly fishing and you're not bashing other users.

VI. We at NEFF, NJFLYFISHING.COM/NEFLYFISHING.NET also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.

Interpretation: We do respect your privacy, but not that much. Only administrators can view your IP address and email address. You have the option to display your email address, to enable or disable this, you are allowed to check and modify your own Profile. We may reveal information to our moderators, if needed. We will definitely reveal this information to law enforcement or other official types if required.

VII. Chain letters, wagers, betting pools, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are strictly forbidden. Notice this site presently does not have advertising. This may become an option that we may want to offer companies, but as of now, it's not of our interest. Tomorrow, our interests may change. If you want to advertise a product, Please do so, but don't be a pain in the ass about it. Post it once or twice and that's it. If you want to pay for advertising, we can work something out.

Interpretation: Just don't do it, we will delete it and you.

For Sale posts for fishing accessories (Rods / reels / lines / flies...etc...) are acceptable within reason and by PRIVATE SELLERS ONLY. Don't bombard our front page with hundreds of items you have for sale. Place all items in 1 post and post it. If people want your stuff, they'll contact you for it. If they don't want it, they won't contact you. You may repost your for sale stuff every so often, as long as you're not harrasing us with it.

SHOP OWNERS / GUIDES / WEBSITE ENTREPRENEURS - While we love your participation with the site, please note that the For Sale forum is for Private Sellers. It's really unfair for any business owner to capitalize on the hard work I put into this site without sharing any of the profit you make through the use of this site with me. Of course, if you contact me, we might be able to work out a monetary figure to help promote your business. Ignore this and I will make sure that your business appears on the front page of a google search as a Scamming spam artist that does not deliver on the products your pimping. Think about that.

GUIDES - You may sell your new or used items as long as you disclose within the post all pertinent information. For example... If an item is being sold as new but purchased on your guide purchasing program, you must discolose the type of warrantee the product comes with and must note any potential snags a purchaser may run into, should something unfortunate happen. If a customer asks you about the warrantee, "I don't know" is not an answer. Call the vendor yourself and find out if your warrantee is transferable and if you're within the transfer time frame.

This leads to another topic which I'll go over quickly. If a user had a positive or negative experience with a vendor / guide /etc... the link to that site will absolutely be welcomed. That's free advertising for better or for worse, which I don't mind at all.

Interpretation: If you have to question an item you're posting because you think it may be questionable, ask or don't post it.

VIII. The private messaging on this system should be used the way you would use email. I believe that once you receive a mail message from someone, it belongs to you and you can do what you like with it. That's not to say that you should use a private message against somebody. Typically, whatever is sent to you from somebody within this system should be kept offline, that's why it's called a 'Private Message. If the sender gives you permission to use the Private Message other than what it was intended, than that's fine, you may do so. There is 1 situation where either myself or the moderators of this site will not honor any of the above with regards to the private messaging system. If you're going to use this system to send me and/or the users of this site, hate mail, threatining private messages, messages telling people off, messages of vulgarity, terroristic threats, messages threatening to sue the admins or users of this site, or private messages depicting that you're a violent person who is not capable of conducting oneself in a civil manner, we just might have to post those particular private messages to humiliate you like the ignorant arrogant fool that you depict yourself as being. Depending on the quality of your message, we just might have to report you to the authorities. If someone from this site decides to sue you because you didn't follow the rules of this system, I'll make sure all of your privacy is made available for a court system. So please, don't use this system to send private messages of the nature described within this paragraph. If you do, you'll only humiliate yourself and possibly get yourself in trouble with the law because of your own actions, not because of someone elses actions.

With regards to your privacy using this systems private messages. We don't really care about what you talk to someone else about behind closed doors. There are over 900 members here that have access to the private messaging system, it would take far to long to find the juicy stuff and we're not really sure it's worth the effort. Your private message are readable only by the site admin. That doesn't mean the admin actively sits at his desk all day to monitor the 900 users of this site who might be using the private messaging system. If an admin is notified by another party that you are abusing the Private Messaging system, we'll just have to take a look and see how you're abusing it. Abuse applies to sending out those naughty messages to people (as described above). Use the Private messaging system here as often as you like, minus the hate mail, and your messages will never have to be read by an admin.

Interpretation: If we get complaints from other users or another user about your use of the Private Messaging system, your Private Messages will be monitored and/or possibly revoked so be good.

IX. Photography, Stories, & Posts... Consider this... You submit an article or photo to your favortie newspaper or magazine. The newspaper or magazine then prints your article or photo. Once that article or photo hits the newsstands, that's it, there's no taking it back or editing or deleting. This system is somewhat identicle to a magazine or a newspaper, but we do realize that mistakes are often made so, this system is configured to give you a reasonable amount of time (12hrs or so) to fix your mistakes or add to a post. Sometimes after reading something that we've posted, we realize that we forgot a thing or two, and maybe had some typo's that need some fixing... That's what the edit button is for. It's frowned upon to be part of a conversation then figure you'll drop out of that conversation by deleting all of your messages. It's not fair to other users in the thread and it's not fair to the readers. If we notice that you continually use the edit button to get out of making yourself look like a fool, your edit feature will be revoked indefinetely. All you've gotta do is make sure that your post is relatively close to what you intended to say

More on posts and threads... When threads get out of control, they'll be closed and/or possibly moved to an inactive forum where they will rot away in peace. If you disagree with what someone says in a thread, TOO BAD. Don't contact me to cry about something that someone else posted. That person may be right, that person might be wrong. If you agree with the person, let him know about it. If you disagree with that person, let them know about it, just be civil and there won't be any problems. The admins of this site will run this site the way we have found it to be so successful over the past few years. If you don't like what someone has to say, this site is equiped with an 'IGNORE USER' feature. If you use this feature, you'll never have to read anything that particular user has written ever again. If you need assistance using this feature, just ask an admin.

If you've ever given something to somebody then demanded that person give it back, don't submit threads or photo's to this site. We will not play the 'indian giver' game with you. Once it's here, it's here to stay.

Your photo's/photography belong to you however, once posted, they will not be removed. Your photo's may be modified and used with other photo's. Some of the users of this site like to joke around with pictures. If you can't take a joke, don't post your photo's.

Just say you are approached by a magazine and they offer you some $$$ for a photo but there is 1 condition... Your photo must be removed from this website. We'll be more than happy to remove your photo from this site so you can benefit and/or profit from you picture. Again, once it's posted, it's fair game. To see what type of photography has been posted please check out our photo gallery. You'll see that it's quite tame and enjoyable.

On that note, you MAY NOT use ANY of the photo's or texts within this site to profit from. You May use the photo's and texts within this site if you have WRITTEN CONSENT from NEFFor North Eastern Fly Fishing or njflyfishing.com or neflyfishing.net, and the photographer. Some of the people posting photo's on this site work hard to make their photo's enjoyable for you. They would not appreciate it if you made money from their photo's.

Take the photo's and use them for your wallpapers if you like, or even print them out for your photo album - This is not a problem. They are here for your enjoyment.

Additional Rules, Guidelines, Warnings and Threats

1. Think before you type. This is a public forum. Never forget that thousands of people access this message board, even though only a small minority actually posts a question. Avoid all vulgarity. This is not the Brothers of the Sacred Heart, and we all like a good laugh through double entendre but be tasteful and ask yourself if Mom would mind reading it before you say it. "Your mission," should you decide to ask a question, should be to ask yourself first “does it inform and entertain?” RFord made a comment that he has 'swamp ass.' That's not a problem... and quite frankly, coming from Ralph, I think it's rather hillarious. "Your F'ng mother has swamp ass"... is a problem and won't be tolerated. "You're stupid for thinking that way", also won't be tolerated... Got it?

2. Moderation Queue. This is a feature that permits us to pre-approve a Member's posts before they are displayed on the Message Board. This is a real pain in the neck but if we think you are a hard case or abusing the Private Message feature you will be put "in Queue." Yes its like Big Brother, snooping and censorship but you don't have any constitutional rights on this private web site and we need to protect our interests and the rest of this community first. If you're asked to review the rules on more than 1 occasion, you just might qualify yourself for the use of this feature!

3. Age Restrictions. As much as we like children and enjoy teaching them how to fish, past experience has shown us that their participation on this Message Board isn't as good for them or for us. No one under the age of 13 may register on this Message Board, even if your Mom or Dad says OK. Sorry. If you're a 20-40 year old man who acts like a 13 year old kid, please don't both with this message board. If you're a 13 year old kid who can can act like an adult, you're more than welcome to contribute here, with the permission of a parent.

4. Nit Picking Lawyer types. We have enough lawyers in New Jersey and we don't want to hear from you about whatever you don't like. We do claim OUR Constitutional First Amendment rights just like the New York Times, Washington Post or Consumer Reports. As editors and reporters for njflyfishing.com/neflyfishing.net or NEFF, we can say that product "XYZ" in our opinion is a piece of junk. If some underage kid submits a false birthdate during registration and then is offended by something on this Message Board, it's not our problem - Poor parenting. For the record, our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy, takes precedence, supercedes and controls these Guidelines. If we feel we need to update this document, we may do so at our discression. It's your responsibility to read it if we let you know a change was made.

- Thank You!

 
Fly Fishing - The Gentleman's sport - Bet you didn't realize that this select breed of individules requires such demanding rules. Keep it fun, keep it sensible, and there will not be any problems.

 

 

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